HIGH CAPACITY MAG BAN-- WHEN?
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standard capacity magazines were banned for non military and LEO folks in September of 1994
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>18 U.S.C. § 922(w) makes it unlawful to transfer or possess a large capacity
ammunition feeding device (holding more than 10 rounds) manufactured after
September 13, 1994. Punishable by up to 5 years.[/quote]
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>18 U.S.C. § 922(w) makes it unlawful to transfer or possess a large capacity
ammunition feeding device (holding more than 10 rounds) manufactured after
September 13, 1994. Punishable by up to 5 years.[/quote]
Stephen A. Camp
Staff In Memoriam
Hello. It went into effect Sept.13,'94. Best.
Okay, .357SIG, I'll show my ignorance and ask what is significant about Sept. 13, 2004? Is that when this idiotic law is due to expire? DAL
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Reading "Capitalism: The Unknown Ideal," by Ayn Rand, should be required of every politician and in every high school.
"Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are ruined."
--Patrick Henry, during Virginia's Convention to Ratify the Constitution (1788)
GOA, JPFO, PPFC, CSSA, LP, ARI, NRA
CassandraComplex
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As long as we FIGHT and don't let htem pass another one, it will expire. We have the winning side, all we have to do is sit and wait. They have to try to sneak another one past us.
Yes, there is a "Sunset" clause that the ban would end in 10 years, and make hi-cap mags legal again. However, I forsee a big fight soon, as the antis will refuse to give up any ground they have made in controlling weapons. Despite all information and studies out there documenting that limiting magazine capacities to 10 rounds has done JACK S**T to reduce crime, they will do what they can to limit RKBA rights.
Mike
Mike
Allen_Raiford
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I predict that the spineless Republicans, if they still retain power, will renew the ban in 2004.
Considering that Bushmaster's new 10 round magazine is engineeered so that it can not be disassembled for cleaning, i doubt they will let us ever have new standard capacity mags again.
Bushmaster submitted several designs for approval and the one that they let them sell is locked shut!
The law will sunset but there will be a concerted effort to sneak something on the books to resolve the problem.
Don't expect Ruger or the NRA to fight this one for us...
dZ
Bushmaster submitted several designs for approval and the one that they let them sell is locked shut!
The law will sunset but there will be a concerted effort to sneak something on the books to resolve the problem.
Don't expect Ruger or the NRA to fight this one for us...
dZ
I'll have to agree with the negative comments here in regard to the ban expiring and everything returning to pre-1994 status. Since when has Government relinquished control of anything it's gotten its poisonous claws into? Hell, now there's even talk of ordering mags. to contain, IIRC, no more than 7 rounds. It just ain't gonna end, folks. In 10-20 years, these are going to be the good ol' days.
If the Republicans still have Congress by then, and Bush is in the White House, the easiest thing for them to do would be to maintain the status quo, which is exactly what they'll do.
Can you really imagine them making a principled argument on why not to renew/extend the law? Can you see them standing up to the inevitable withering, relentless attacks they'll have to endure just to give the country back hi-cap magazines? If you can, then you have a far greater imagination than I.
DAL
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Reading "Capitalism: The Unknown Ideal," by Ayn Rand, should be required of every politician and in every high school.
"Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are ruined."
--Patrick Henry, during Virginia's Convention to Ratify the Constitution (1788)
GOA, JPFO, PPFC, CSSA, LP, ARI, NRA
If the Republicans still have Congress by then, and Bush is in the White House, the easiest thing for them to do would be to maintain the status quo, which is exactly what they'll do.
Can you really imagine them making a principled argument on why not to renew/extend the law? Can you see them standing up to the inevitable withering, relentless attacks they'll have to endure just to give the country back hi-cap magazines? If you can, then you have a far greater imagination than I.
DAL
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Reading "Capitalism: The Unknown Ideal," by Ayn Rand, should be required of every politician and in every high school.
"Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are ruined."
--Patrick Henry, during Virginia's Convention to Ratify the Constitution (1788)
GOA, JPFO, PPFC, CSSA, LP, ARI, NRA
Badger Arms
New member
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by dZ:
standard capacity magazines were banned for non military and LEO folks in September of 1994
Wow, I'd never even considered this. They are basically creating a sunset for a felony. It's like saying it's illegal to kill someone for ten years and then it's okay. But, if you killed somebody before Sep 13, 1994, you won't have to go to jail either. ONLY if you kill them during that ten year period is it bad. What will they think of next?
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standard capacity magazines were banned for non military and LEO folks in September of 1994
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Wow, I'd never even considered this. They are basically creating a sunset for a felony. It's like saying it's illegal to kill someone for ten years and then it's okay. But, if you killed somebody before Sep 13, 1994, you won't have to go to jail either. ONLY if you kill them during that ten year period is it bad. What will they think of next?
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God made us in his own image.
Thomas Jefferson made us free.
John Browning made us equal.
Without Browning, we might not know about the other two...
JayDrummond
Moderator
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by DAL:
Since when has Government relinquished control of anything?
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Well, last gun show I bought two 30 rd. mags for my SKS and a 15 rd. mag for my 1911. There were piles and piles of 30 rd. AK mags, high capacity Glock mags, AK and Thompson drum mags, AR, mini-14 mags . . . There might be a high-cap law, but there sure as hell ain't no high-cap ban.
I have a couple high cap Makarov mags that have been "Klintonated" to ten rounds. Trimming the follower makes them 12 rd. What? Trimming the follower is unlawful? Yeah, and dumping tea in Boston Harbor was unlawful too.
These politicians need to understand that taking guns away from armed patriots is a dangerous game.
Since when has Government relinquished control of anything?
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Well, last gun show I bought two 30 rd. mags for my SKS and a 15 rd. mag for my 1911. There were piles and piles of 30 rd. AK mags, high capacity Glock mags, AK and Thompson drum mags, AR, mini-14 mags . . . There might be a high-cap law, but there sure as hell ain't no high-cap ban.
I have a couple high cap Makarov mags that have been "Klintonated" to ten rounds. Trimming the follower makes them 12 rd. What? Trimming the follower is unlawful? Yeah, and dumping tea in Boston Harbor was unlawful too.
These politicians need to understand that taking guns away from armed patriots is a dangerous game.
Thats what has me worried about those post 1994 Center ar mags i have seen at gunshows for 16 bucks
they are not marked LEO/mil only
just a date
the rumor is that they were intended for overseas sales but are being sold in the US
FELONY BAIT?
chum a few out
and disarm a fellow permanently
If you had a large magazine collection, how hard would it be for an illegal magazine to be added to your collection by someone?
dZ
they are not marked LEO/mil only
just a date
the rumor is that they were intended for overseas sales but are being sold in the US
FELONY BAIT?
chum a few out
and disarm a fellow permanently
If you had a large magazine collection, how hard would it be for an illegal magazine to be added to your collection by someone?
dZ
J
Jeff, CA
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I remain "guardedly optimistic", as hospitals say. Master Bush will be making this decision only a couple of months before the next election. You know the democrats won't be voting for him, no matter what happens. The fastest way to guarantee himself a single term is to do what his old man did: betray gun owners. I don't think he's smart enough to take a lesson from Daddy's experience, but if his handlers have their heads on straight, there's a chance.