Hi Point Prankster Strikes Again!

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microman

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I love to shoot outdoors and almost never go to indoor
ranges anymore. Found one the other day "it was a
might bit fancy too" I must say. Came in and talked
to a few guys working there. They asked how long I
have been shooting and I said I am a new shooter
and would come and try their range sometime.

Arrived a week later with my nice gun case. Guy at
the counter asks what are you shooting today son?
It's a Hi Point I replied. He got that puzzled look,
you might need to get something a little better
later on he said.

Then the fun started.

Me: My friend recommended I try Hi Point. A local
gun store gave me a great bargain on this 9mm for
$399 out the door.

Guy at counter: Son they took you royally.

Me: Came with a "clip" too :D

Guy at counter: Starts shaking his head...

Me: Do you rent shotty's here too?
 
a great bargain on this 9mm for
$399 out the door.
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Now that right there is one funny dude :) wish I coulda been there to see the look on the old guys face :) but then pull out a hi power :) new 75th anniversary model....
 
I bought a Hi Point 9mm just for a cheap plinker a couple years ago. Didn't expect much when I bought it, but was pleasantly surprised! Never jammed right out of the box, unlike some new guns I've purchased since then. It's a little heavy compared to my Glock 23, but it was just for plinking fun...like my Tec-9. Cheap but fun!:)
 
bought a HiPoint from afriend who sent his back to the factory after 5k rounds or whatever they recommend and while it was gone decided he needed to have on ready so bought a second. He then sold the new one when the old one came back. Slightly before things got crazy and he asked $100 with some accessories(extra mags and carriers and little stuff like that). I expected very little from it. I was really impressed with reliability and accuracy(no target shooter, but easily fit within my definition of "combat accuracy"). I found out they were made 20 minutes from me and did some research on the company. WHat I dug up through some less than perfectly reliable resources, was the company that does the manufacturing, possibly on contract from hi-point, makes many things and for some of the other contracts it must run production at very high tolerances. They are ISO whatever certified, which few of the firearms manufacturers are.
Another source, a local gun shop that does extremely high volume, said they have the lowest return rates of any brand they sell. Maybe people think they are cheap and it isn't worth returning or just accept malfunctions though.
 
Every time I go to a gun show I try to talk myself into buying a High Point. Just haven't been able to do it. Now you have given me a good reason...Gun Snob bait, along with my Rough Rider, and P22!!!
Now I see a High Point in my future.
 
Another source, a local gun shop that does extremely high volume, said they have the lowest return rates of any brand they sell
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That's because it goes directly back to the factory. I've certainly sent my carbine back four times before selling it a few months ago.
 
Maybe im a gun snob (I doubt it though i own 2 tauruses) but there is no way i can force myself to purchase a hi-point. Aesthetically they are frankenstein incarnate. Construction materials leave much to be desired. When i buy a gun I buy it with every intention of handing it down to my children, and I'd hate to hear "Nah dad its cool, you keep that one". I just can't fathom owning one unless I was too poor to own something resembling some notion of quality construction.
 
Hi-Point Torture test videos:

Check out this series of videos where these guys set out to destroy one to show what piles of junk they were and found out that it was almost indestructable!

Hi-Point Pistols: The Ultimate Test
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbvvurXmAmg

Hi-Point Pistols: The Ultimate Test RELOADED
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmt5QB814Tw

Hi-Point Pistols: The Ultimate Test MAN VS HI POINT
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FoWpog5KU4

So what happened to that Hi Point?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_HXtEvjlGg

Hi-Point Pistols The Ultimate Test Part 4: Judgement Day
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKkQm5TRaWE

PLEASE watch all of them for a real eye opening experience that will astound you and while it probably won't make ya run out and buy one you WILL have to have a much better opinion of the guns if you are honest with yourself to ANY degree.

PS: I have nothing to do with the videos or Hi-Point. I am just a guy who has sold (formal FFL), owned and shot several.
 
All the testing yet they are among the most common guns I witness malfunction at the range. Only the 1911 platform has jammed more while I was performing my duties as range safety officer. This probably because there are far more 1911's than hi points being shot out there.

You guys can convince yourselves that they are great all you want. They are still made of inferior materials, unsafe to carry chamber loaded, and far less reliable than other better options. The triggers are very heavy and sights poor. They are even less reliable with hollow points. The firing pins are prone to breakage, especially if dry fired. Magazines are poor and some fans here on TFL have said that they need adjusting to perform reliably.

Based on my personal exposure to Hi Point firearms both at the range and on the sales floor, I would only recommend them if nothing better including a used gun of some sort, could not be afforded. Even then with a very strong point underlining their short comings.
 
They are still made of inferior materials, unsafe to carry chamber loaded, and far less reliable than other better options.
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The firing pins are prone to breakage,
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And this is not gun snobbery, its actual experience and an honest review.
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I wouldn't expect the results in the 5 videos listed in post #9 to be believed over your "personal" experience. I guess those guys used some kind of specially built High Point for their tests.
Wonder what would happen to a $1400 Rohrbach with a 50% overload and a bold driven into the barrel?

Not saying they are great guns, but they aren't the junk that the detractors claim.
 
My Hi-Point 45 has been a fun and very reliable gun so far. Outperforms my Ruger P-95 at every range trip, both in accuracy and function (not jamming). Only one jam in over 1000 rounds- and this was the first time I used the gun. I should have broken in the mag as others recommended. I have purchased 5 more mags, and none have jammed on me yet. It is kinda heavy, but being that is was my first handgun I am very used to it. Kinda like the weight actually... I know I can always use it as a club if I run out if ammo!
 
I wouldn't expect the results in the 5 videos listed in post #9 to be believed over your "personal" experience. I guess those guys used some kind of specially built High Point for their tests.
Wonder what would happen to a $1400 Rohrbach with a 50% overload and a bold driven into the barrel?

Not saying they are great guns, but they aren't the junk that the detractors claim.
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To be fair, I simply don't know what was done to or how the Hi Points that jammed at the range I babysit were treated. What I can tell you is that I have no reason to conjure up a story to poo poo Hi Points. They are the highest malfunctioning gun on the range bar none if you don't lump all 1911 brands together.

For you to be fair you have no idea what was done to or how the Hi Points in the video's were treated either. You don't know if the obstructions were solid or the double loads legit. Nor do you know if any video was edited.

If the roles were reversed and you were the one with first hand visual proof of multiple malfunctions from different guns, how would you explain the video?

If every RO that you worked with said they see them malfunctioning alot, how would you explain the video?

If your customers returned a high percentage of them due to malfunctioning or broken firing pins, how would you explain the video?

If your customers told story after story of Hi Points jamming including one guy who used it to successfully stop a robbery by shooting the robber***, how would you explain the video?


***guy fired 3 shots landing one as the robber fled. Would have fired more but the Hi Point malfunctioned. As a side bar he had to chamber a round while having a gun in his face.***

I understand that a successful gun usage is surviving uninjured and this guy not only survived but won and with a Hi Point. Success indeed however the mental "what could have been" I would have to deal with had this happened to me would simply drive me crazy.
 
Not saying they are great guns, but they aren't the junk that the detractors claim.
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When compared to top quality guns like Glock, Smith, Beretta, H&K, FN, Ruger, Browning, and Colt they are absolutely junk.

To me it would be like comparing a Snap-on tool to a tool made in China. Sure the Chinese made tool will work most of the time but it ain't no Snap-on.
 
Given a choice, my Hi point would not be my first choice for defense...not because of any problem with it tho. It is too heavy to carry, it is low capacity, it is too big...I bought mine for a fun gun to just shoot when out plinking. It has performed flawlessly for it's intended purpose. I would not be scared to use it for for defense, just not my top choice of all the guns I have. If you own one, who cares if others don't like it or want one. I would trust a Hi Point WAY before a Taurus! To each their own!
 
I don't like hi points. They are clunky, big, and ugly. The one that I fired was plagued with FTFs. But still, better a hi point than a sharp stick someone else said on this forum.
 
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Threegun,
I can appreciate actual experience with guns at the range jamming but what is your proof that they are made of inferior materials? I read lots of guys who pass on Internet lore as Gospel truth without a shred of personal experience.

Just curious.

I don't own one but I do own two Colt 1911 models that have been remarkably accurate and 100% reliable. Of course, my data base is two pistols but I often see 1991 styled pistols - all without issues so far.
 
Still junky...

I watched the last video and cringed after they blew that junker upo at the sight of the raw edges of the zinc slide. I also happened to notice that when they fired at a paper target a very high proportion of shots keyholed or worse. Course they didn't show how far from the target the shooter was standing.
Sorry...they are junk and I will never own one.
 
I watched the last video and cringed after they blew that junker upo at the sight of the raw edges of the zinc slide. I also happened to notice that when they fired at a paper target a very high proportion of shots keyholed or worse. Course they didn't show how far from the target the shooter was standing.
Sorry...they are junk and I will never own one.
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Watch the first three videos to see why in the last video the bullets keyholed. Bolts jamed into the bore and over loaded rounds fired causing bulged barrels...TWICE!!! Slides c-clamped shut! To get a real idea of this torture test watch all the videos!!!
 
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