Hi Point C9

Cheapshooter, Since you quoted me I will respond, I have never owned one, shot more than a few, and have had four or five brought to me with various maladay's that people wanted fixed. My experiences provided me with an opinion, I do not suggest to others what to buy but this is my opinion from my experiences. I enjoy firearms but I choose what is suitable for the " collection" and a Hi Point is not. From your title I assume (again opinion only) you have different values in your purchases, that is what makes this Country great...each can make his own decision.
The SCCY was mentioned and is a relatively inexpensive pistol that works...I have one as a "truck gun" and have found it to be a reliable shooter but not one I wish to shoot all day as it will wear you out a lot faster than say a Sig P 938.
No Hi Point bashing intended just personal opinion.
 
Ibmikey, yes my username does represent some of the guns in my "accumulation". But not all. It mostly came from my accumulating milsurp firearms that I enjoy shooting. Not "collector" pieces that look beautiful in a display case. My varioue examples range from those milsurps, and Hi-Points, Rough riders, and such to Colts, S&W, Rugers, Berettas, etc.
I like to shoot them all, and have found the Hi-Point to be reliable, and accurate. Not sure why people would bring you a Hi-Point with "various maladay's" to fix when they can just snd them back to Hi-Point, and get either the problem solved, or a new gun. Along with a spare mag or two for their trouble. A warranty, and customer service unequalled by anyone else in the industry.
One interesting side note on my Hi-Point JHP. My Son-In-Law that has very little experience with handguns, any guns for that matter, did terrible with my S&W 645, Colt 1991a1, and Argentine 1927 Systima Colt. But shot really great groups with ghe Hi-Point. So much so that it is all he wants to shoot when he goes to the range with me.
 
and have had four or five brought to me with various maladay's that people wanted fixed.
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Why in the world did they do that? You send these back to the factory and they send you a tested gun that works in return. You pay shipping there and they pay shipping back. In every instance I have heard reported they send an extra magazine back with it which helps offset the shipping and is a whole lot less paper work and cheaper for them than paying the shipping.
You can argue about their design, their aesthetics, etc., but their CS is top notch.
 
I owned one of the 9mm carbines years ago and I quickly grew to like it alot for what it was. It would bump around behind the seat of my old farm truck and when I needed to dispatch a coyote, jack rabbit or the ultra pesky soda can it was good to go. Ugly, heavy, and mostly ugly it always shot great, the trigger was decent. I sold it later and my Dad was upset he liked it so much.

Fast forward 20 years and my buddy shows up to the range with a 40 pistol. I roll my eyes cause he is SOOO very cheap that it was just fitting. Again, heavy, ugly, pretty uncomfortable BUTthe dang thing shot, WELL. I couldnt not keep it inside 6" at 60'. The trigger was pretty okay, the sights were small and vauge but still I grouped em great.

Ive thought of having one to just stick behind a beam in the garage for just in case purposes.
 
Whatever you do, stay away from Cobra guns as I can attest that they are garbage. Isn't the Canik TPS9 and it's variants in your price range? I don't own one but a lot of the "gun gurus" give it high marks. I hear everything that Hi Point owners say and I'm sure they're truthful, however, lots of great guns can be purchased for $350 or less that have great features.

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I think I have pretty much decided to go with the Taurus PT111. I was thinking the PT709 but I liked the feel of the how the 111 fit in my hand better (better grips) than the 709, though the 709 had a similar feel to my shield.

It appears that the Tauruses break down and reassemble a lot easier than the Hi Point. I didn't really want to deal with the "doll head" every time I pulled it apart. Just personal preference.

There is only a difference in price of about $10-$12 so the extra magazine capacity and extra mag out of the box are worth the few extra dollars.

Going to hit a few more places locally to see who has the best deal, but will most likely pick one up this coming week.

thanks for all of the suggestions everyone.

What I took away from this thread is that the Hi Point isn't really a bad gun, it's just ugly, heavy, and for some reason has a bad rep, though HP seems to have customer service that is off the charts.

Exco
 
Exco, I've been looking into many of the same pistols you've been considering and I've come to the same conclusion about the highpoint cs9 (ugly, unrefined/reliable, inexpensive). I am leaning heavily toward the Taurus 111g2.....It gets almost as much hate as the high point. Tanfoglio has some options in a close price range. I see the 111g2 frequently listed for ~ $250, the c9 for ~$160, after that prices jump to $300-$350 for the next tier.
 
FTR, I don't yet have any experience with these pistols, I am still in my pre purchase research phase. While I lust after most firearms, there's something about the hatred for inexpensive (not cheap) firearms that draws me in.
 
I should stay away from threads such as this where the price of an item is the upmost factor in deciding be it a Hi Point, Taurus or Fiat automobile. I have fired my share of basement priced pistols as well as driving a long distance in a Chevy car that was just big enough to sandwich two guys inside. Each experience was coupled with pain and discomfort in the guise of saving money.
Both the cheap pistol and car have their pluses ( good gas mileage, cheap tire replacement, inexpensive pistol price expected to be shot little) but without being a snob "you get what you pay for". It took this old body days to reccover from the trip squashed into that little noisy, hard riding and easily squashed car (i am average size so bulk was not a factor) just as plinking with a Taurus P111 is punishing on the hand when firing lots of ammo, not a problem with the one i shot as round 18 caused a breakage and the pistol spent the next two months visiting the factory. My friend sold it quickly after its return.
I have in excess of several hundred firearms and a nice pick up, no braggs as i worked long and hard and now in the exit lane of life and closing on the stop sign i have the time to enjoy those acquisitions made through the years and am very happy i made good choices while acquiring them.
The whole point of this rambling is perhaps it is better to wait and save for something you will be happy to own for many, many years than something of lesser quality that may or may not give trouble free satisfaction. End of lecture: Economics 101:D
 
Ugly, but go bang.

I don't own one myself but regularly shoot with a friend who brings his almost every time we shoot together because he leaves it in his office just to have on hand. Every time he shoots the thing he just laughs because it never jams and is actually pretty accurate to 15 yards. He has many guns but says it's one of his most versatile guns. If not shooting he can pound nails with it.
 
My step dad carries a C-9. I have shot it a few times. It is heavy and a bit ugly, but it has never failed on him.

My EDC has been a PT-111 for the past couple of years. I like it better than the C-9. It's lighter and has better capacity. It's also prettier.

Either one will get the job done. Get what works best for you.
 
I picked up a Taurus PT 111 G2 this morning.

It was covered (and dripping) with oil when I pulled it out of the box. I brought it home, cleaned it up, then made a trip to the range.

I put just shy of 200 rounds through it, and I had 2 failed to fires, and no other problems. I plan on bringing it out this coming week at least once, possibly twice more to do the same thing, after which it'll probably become my "Jeep gun".

so far I have been pleased with it, though the slide is not as smooth of a finish as I am used to with my S&Ws. I'm sure that I'll get used to it though

Exco
 
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