Here's another hate crime that will never be reported

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The Murders of Channon Christian or Christopher Newsom

Google this story and see how much press it has received - the answer is almost none. But blog traffic on the subject is huge. The people are forming their own news network - CNN it seems just doesn't want to know.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgvmmyDpzHw

We all know about James Byrd, the black ex-con from Texas who crossed the wrong people in a drug deal and got dragged to death in a horrible murder that made national headlines for months. Here's a story that has never seen the light of day and never will because of the disgusting and highly dangerous double standard that exists in the news and govt. in regards to reporting the real story of crime in America...

-Young, white Tennessee couple out on a date gets car-jacked by four black men.

-The couple is kidnapped and brought to the home of one of the car jackers.

-The young man is sodomized, castrated, and then beaten and stabbed to death while his girlfriend watches.

-Over the next few days, the girlfriend is repeatedly raped, has one of her breasts cut off while she is still alive, and has drain cleaner poured down her throat to hide DNA evidence.

-While this is going on, the black girlfriend of one of the four kidnappers is in the house but never calls police.

This story occurred around the same time that Sean Bell, a black man, got shot while trying to run down some NYC PD with his limo. That made national headlines. The story of this couple never made it past the local news.
 
I often get frustrated by the media's unwillingness to cover crimes evenly. They somehow feel the need to make sure that they don't report more blacks or hispanics committing crimes than they do whites committing crimes.

The reality of the situation is that blacks and hispanics commit more crimes per capita than whites. Instead of dealing with they reality of why this is true they try to portrait an even distribution of criminal activities.

Instead of covering the fact that it is not truely race that is the issue that makes one more likely to commit a crime but their social and financial staus they prefer to turn a blind eye to reality. The poorer you are and the less stable an enviroment you were raised in the more likely you are to be involved in criminal activities. It just so happens that blacks and hispanics are more likely to be poor, come from an unstable family structure, and have less parental involvement (mostyly due to single parent homes that just spend all their tme trying to make a living). The color of their skin is irrelevant. If a white, hispanic, or a black come from an affluent family they are all less likely to offend but if any of the three comes from a poor family they are more likely to offend.

I am also frustrated by the fact that if whites attack another race it is almost always potrayed as a racially motivated crime but when blacks or another race target whites it is just potrayed as a property crime. They pretend that only whites are capable of hate or that it is somehow justified when it is whites being hated.

I hope noone takes this post to somehow mean I am a racist or prejudiced. I am not...at least no more so that the next guy. I am just pointing out that all people are equally capable of committing a crim if they are in the same situation and that all people are equally cpable of hatred.
 
Media is Racist

One need not be racist to report the facts. The media is VERY racist in its presentation of certain crimes and not others. If one were to watch the news and draw from it what is acceptable in America, I think the following conclusions could be reached.
  1. It is ok to be any race in America except white and only white people can commit hate crimes
  2. It is ok to be any faith in America except Christian
  3. It is ok to have any political position so long as it is Liberal
  4. It is wrong to kill anyone except those who cannot yet speak for themselves (abortion)
  5. It is ok to have any sexual orientation so long as it includes same sex relationships
  6. Children must be taught about sex early and by the schools
  7. It is ok to trample on any civil liberties so long as one invokes the War on Drugs or the War on Terror
  8. If you disagree with any of these statements you must be a right wing extremist and therefore more dangerous than Al Quida (sic?)
 
M14fan, was that last line suposed to be sarcastic? I hope so because I AGREE with all of the points you make and I AM a right wing extremist.... (although I don't feel that I am more dangerous than Al Quida.) I would say that the more of your points that a person argues against, the more left wing they are, but then again, maybe Im confused....:confused:
 
White folks feel guilty. He/She thinks that they have had it too good. White people think that they can make amends for all to injustices that have been done in the past.
By blood I am not white, however by appearance I am. Hmmmm. People act as if only "minorities" grow up hard. I grew up in the "ghetto". An "apparent" white man growing up in the "projects", I fought many blacks, in fact most of the my fights have been with blacks. They hated me, I suppose that in this modern day, I would go to jail for self defence. The only thing that can be said, is that word got around in da hood. By the time I was 16, they stopped messing with me. They learned that one crazy "white boy" can beat down several homies when needed. For some reason, they felt the need to fight me in small groups. When that proved inadequate they found "others" that would "bow down" to beat on. As a "Native American" :barf: ... Indian, I resent their racism for singling me out because of my apparent whiteness, my 1/2 brother was jumped by a group and injured badly, they didn't rob him, they just wanted to beat up a "white boy". No charge of hate in their crime.
My brother got to keep his gold earrings, and neck chains. He didn't get to keep his teeth thanks to that 18 year olds steel toe boots, and his two other 14 year old accomplices. So long Academy Park and good riddance. The only regret is that I wasn't there to stomp on those bullies. If I had been they would have all gotten there teeth knocked out and their POS arms broken.
I have personally seen the "life" that they live. These folks live in a self created hell, then they blame it on whitey. Stop feeling guilty about the supposed inequalities ,make them earn the respect they desire. Quit "bowing down". No man has ever kept anything that he was given just by virtue of simply existing. The things held fastest to are earned. They never gave me anything, therefore I owe them nothing. Give back... Yeah right. I fought hard to get out of that hell. My mother did the best she could as an under educated person. I did what it took to live a better life. Honest hard work never hurt any man. They have as much if not more opportunity than I did. Excuses for their uselessness is just that. This hip hop BS, rob, steal, cheat, and lie is why they are exactly where they belong. They deserve the hell they create for themselves. Then along comes a guilt ridden white boy, thinking that he can buy his respect from a homie. Please. They respect nothing, least of all themselves. Get on with your lives, let the dregs receive that which they so richly deserve. You cannot save fools from themselves.

I apologize for this rant. It has struck a nerve in me.

This is America and my "appearance" makes it wrong to resent the people whom have trespassed on me and mine. What my fathers did or didn't do should have no bearing upon how I should treat their sons or daughters. I have never started a fight, I have always finished them. Who is guilty of what crime? They came to me to have their posterior handed to them, then some fool decides I must be punished on what my thoughts were at the time. Glad that I didn't grow up in these modern PC times. Silly white boys. They are helping to spread their misery to you and you are accepting of it.
Wake up.
 
KnoxNews has covered the murders as have other local news stations such as WATE and WBIR.

So why is this a hate crime, just because it was carried out by Blacks on Whites? I see from several of the blogs that this is being considered a hate crime because the woman was raped, and/or because both were raped by people of another race. However, rape is not considered a hate crime by legal statutes.

Lots of attacks that cross racial lines are billed as hate crimes but are not crimes of hate. They just happen to be crimes where the parties are different races.

There are lots of terrible murders that take place, that are local events, that the rest of the country does not hear about. I highly doubt the reason this one hasn't made the national media is because it was gruesome. If anything, that would have been the very reason for it to make the national media.

By the way, the description above seems to follow David Duke's web page nicely. Somehow, I have a bit of trouble believing David Duke has an impartial view of this matter. He also has some very definite agendas in making this matter out to potentially be more than it actually is much in the same way Jesse Jackson does with crimes against blacks.
http://www.davidduke.com/general/1998_1998.html

As for comparing this to the Sean Bell incident, that incident involved a shooting by police of an unarmed man that the media picked up as being comparable to the Diallo case and who were trying to put a corrupt police spin on the story. In short, the media was trying to pattern match the cases where there were unarmed black men shot by the police under controversial circumstances. There were major differences, such as Bell's car striking a police officer, but still they were playing the evil NY cop, corrupt NY Police angle.
 
Here's another hate crime that will never be reported
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It happens all the time.Reporting crimes committed against white people doesnt stir the "s*** s****" like the media wants it to so it gets swept under the rug.:mad:
 
Double Naught, I believe that the point being made is that the media always interjects racism, the basis for "Hate Crime", into cross-group crimes that have whites as the aggressor.

Here we have the local news channels no longer giving race in their nightly reports, including look-outs from the police. While I do applaud the neutral reporting, not adding race to the description of the perpetrators seems to me to hinder the ability of the public to respond to the police call for help in identifying a suspect.
 
We all know about James Byrd, the black ex-con from Texas who crossed the wrong people in a drug deal and got dragged to death in a horrible murder
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Yes James Byrd Jr was an ex con. The drug deal was the claim of John King one of the defendants but has never been substantiated. The lawyer for Berry who this alleged drug dealing was done with claims that his client didn't participate in the attack.

I too agree that the media reporting is spotty at best and is mostly a commercial venture these days with its allegiance to ratings and money not the truth.. I don't blame the media I blame the people who watch and read the media. The media does what sells. We have troops fighting and dying in Iraq but what do we see on the media but Britney not wearing underwear and her rehab trials.

So don't blame the media...blame those who enable the media.
 
If you haven't read Bias by Bernard Goldberg, you need to.

The media decides what to report and what not to report. Often, they don't report crimes like this because they are afraid of inciting violence toward a minority group. They also don't report defesive gun uses since they don't want to portray guns in a positive light. They go out of their way to report news that reflects their liberal view of the world. It's not a conspiracy, and in many cases, the bias is unconscious and/or unintended. The fact remains that it's there and it influences public opinion.

FWIW - Every news story where I have had direct knowledge of the facts has been grossly mis-reported anyway.
 
Instead of covering the fact that it is not truely race that is the issue that makes one more likely to commit a crime but their social and financial staus they prefer to turn a blind eye to reality. The poorer you are and the less stable an enviroment you were raised in the more likely you are to be involved in criminal activities. It just so happens that blacks and hispanics are more likely to be poor, come from an unstable family structure, and have less parental involvement (mostyly due to single parent homes that just spend all their tme trying to make a living). The color of their skin is irrelevant. If a white, hispanic, or a black come from an affluent family they are all less likely to offend but if any of the three comes from a poor family they are more likely to offend.
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Some truth, but some "fiction" to this statement. While it is true that blacks and hispanics commit a disproportionate number of crimes in this country, it's patently false that there are more poor blacks and hispanics than there are poor white folks.

However, the part about lack of parenting (let me throw in the FACT that over 70% of ALL black babies are born out of wedlock)does play a major role in crime statistics. Plain and simple, this was a hate crime. The FACT that such a disproportionate percentage of young black males are incarcerated has little to do with poverty; lots to do with rejection of the fundamental tenets and mores of Western Civilization. There's a great deal more involved in the behavior of uncivilized savages than poverty.
 
Some really good responses in the above posts.
If you want to know more on crimes and race or area go find a World Almanac from the mid 80's. We still weren't so into PC insanity and those statistics were still reported. Some of the statics seem unreal it is striking.

Sadly most of that kind of statistics are no longer reported at least not there.
 
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They closed that thread. I guess TFL didn't want it to get out either ?
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No, it looked like that one just started in the gutter and wasn't looking to head anywhere else. Perhaps this one will do a little better.

Normally I'd say it's better to link to "actual" news sites rather than blogs for things like this, but it appears that this really isn't getting much in the way of coverage. I've hardly been able to find local coverage of it.

I also have to agree that if the races were reversed in this case, it probably would be receiving at least limited national attention.

I do agree that it's interesting that pretty much anytime a couple whites do anything to a victim who's of a minority, the words "hate crime" will be mentioned...it may or may not end up being prosecuted as such, but it's almost always at least suggested. Here we have what would appear to be just as likely to be racially motivated as many high-profile hate crime cases in the past, and yet I see no mention of the idea outside of blogs.

Then again, with so little mention of the case outside blogs maybe that shouldn't be surprising. You can't mention the "hate crime" implications if you don't even mention the story.


My opinion on the matter? I really don't care much at all about the story. I don't think one heinous crime is particularly more newsworthy than another, and I think quite honestly there are more important stories in this nation and the world than a couple carjacking/rape/murder victims. It's incredibly tragic, and obviously I pray the attackers spend the rest of their pitiful lives in prison...but in the end I don't really think it's "news." However, the media in general does consider similar stories to be news...at which point the lack of coverage of this is interesting, does have some serious implications, and is something that I care about.
 
I dont care if the perps are black , white , brown , yellow or frigging green they all need the death penalty. IMHO its a matter of predators and prey , and frankly race/religion/sexual orientation of all partys involved dont matter a lot to me nor was it likely the deciding factor here , the car was the inital trigger , and the cute girl was a bonus to the situation She and her boyfriend could have been any race and had the same result . Take the sociopathic *******s and kill them is all we as a society can do to protect ourselves.
 
I've quit watching the national and network news mainly because of the bias. Is there anyone that just gives the facts? There's liberal news, and conservative news. All i want is news. period. Leave all the fluff and political openions out of the report.

The problem is, all this talk of equal rights and equality you see in the media is simply double speak. They claim to want one thing, while actually promoting the opposite. How can biased reporting lead to a more balanced, equal society? It cant.

If a notworthy crime happens, report it. I dont care what race or nationality the perp or victim is. Criminals come in all shapes, sizes, sexes and colors.

I dont care what religion someone is either, as long as they dont force their views on me. When they do, THEN it becomes a problem. You can worship the moon or cheese for all i care... but if you try to convert me, you will get your feelings hurt. I likewise do not force my views on others.

All the gay marriage issues are a non-issue to me. If two people love each other, let them get married. Who cares what the sex is. I want somone to prove to me that a gay couple getting married causes actual harm to a hetrosexual couple. It doesnt.

I'm sick of slanted news, biased media, and govt. doublespeak.
 
RedneckFur you and i best be carefull , We may be in some danger of getting our user names revoked by the popular opinion of rednecks lol .
 
it's patently false that there are more poor blacks and hispanics than there are poor white folks
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I agree with some of your point about rejecting a civilized lifestyle but that does not really have anything to do with race either. Place any race in the same circumatances and they tend to react similarly.

As for the numbers on poverty, you might want to recheck your facts. Lets pretend that the total population is 100,000,000 people just to start with a nice even number. As of the last census, the percentage of the population that fall into each race group are approximately....

White non-hispanic - 66% = 66,000,000

Hispanic - 14% = 14,000,000

Blacks - 12% = 12,000,000

Asian - 4% = 4,000,000

As of the last census the percentage of people living in poverty by race were as follows...

White non-hispanic - 8.2% = 5,412,000

Hispanics - 22.5% = 3,150,000

Blacks - 24.4% = 2,928,000

Asian - 11.8% = 472,000

That means, even though whites make up the vast majority of the population, more than half of all poor people are black or hispanic. So even when you just deal with total numbers there are more poor black and hispanic people than there are white people. When you deal with percentages it gets to be an even worse divide. When you look at the total number of white, black and hispanic people you see that blacks and hispanics combined only make up about 1/3 of the total population (the other 2/3 being composed solely of whites in this figure) but they acount for over 1/2 of the total poor.

I included Asian in the numbers because it tends to support one of the points that you were making about family. Asians tend to have stronger family bonds and tend to offend at a lower percentage rate because of such even though they have a higher percentage living in poverty than do whites. That leads me to believe that it is not only financial but family support structures (as I stated in my first post) that play a part in determining your likelihood to commit a crime.

You also have to look at other factors. Some figures I have seen in the past show that poor blacks and hispanics are up to 5X more likely to live in higher crime rate areas and higher density areas such as inner cities than are poor whites.

EDIT: A little side note regarding the numbers. These numbers are based on average "household" incomes. So if you take into account that the average white home consists of 2.5-2.6 people, the average black home 2.8-3.2 people, and the average hispanic home at 3.9-4.3 people you would be adding even more people to the black and hispanic side of the poor equation since the amount of money need to support a family of 4 people is higher than the amount of money needed to support a family of 2.5 people yet I believe the census only deals with total household income and does not take into account the number of people needing to live off this income.
 
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