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You are consistent, if nothing else. You want "well thought out and considered action, not knee jerk" and then make a knee jerk statement like the above. I am weary hearing about liberal politicians who are advocating the gutting of the second amendment who "believe in the rule of law" or their love of "the process."
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I said rule of law, I don't say right laws or agree with the laws, but laws passed and on the books.

Some want knee jerk reactions because of a long pent up failure to deal with the impact of guns (that includes suicide, gangs killing each other, killing innocent people in the area etc)

As much as I detested Miranda at the time, it also has stopped gross abuses of police officers of no integrity that beat out confessions.

I see issues with both side and want to explore ideas and solutions. When I hear one then I can support it. It may make no difference, but its what I can do.
 
As much as I detested Miranda at the time, it also has stopped gross abuses of police officers of no integrity that beat out confessions.
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That sir is a grand mischaractorization. Certainly cops have abused folks in time past with the "third degree," but that practice was already long a thing of the past by 1966 when Miranda was decided. There is a great leap between police "beating out confessions" and failing to tell someone that what they say will be used against them, and they have a right to an attorney.

Also don't forget that Ernesto Miranda was later convicted again during retail. Not that this would give any cops authority to "beat out a confession." But... The thing is, they didn't.
 
"go kids?" Go where? Demand pointless new laws? Scream at and shout down gun owners and their advocates?
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At least they are trying to do something. Better than the nothing we have done since columbine. Oh sure we have done some things that haven't worked at all. But there are still no bullet proof doors/windows at schools. Still no security guards. Still no bolt locks on doors. Teachers still can't carry. ISIS supporters identified by the FBI can still buy guns...i mean the list goes on. How can you blame these kids for wanting action? Guns are an easy target and its going to get to the point where they are banned because no one is doing anything else.

I noticed how Dana Loesch tip-toed around the issue of Trump yesterday morning and how Fox News has largely avoided criticism. Now if Obama had said this, well, you know the reaction would have been much different!
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This is not surprising. Foxnews is entertainment, not news. Ratings don't go up if they start rallying against Trump. Rallying against Obama got viewers. Heck they probably had a main page article about Hillary or Obama yesterday, they do everyday.
 
In The Ten Ring said:
I noticed how Dana Loesch tip-toed around the issue of Trump yesterday morning and how Fox News has largely avoided criticism. Now if Obama had said this, well, you know the reaction would have been much different!
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I commend you for watching Fox News enough to know what they aren't largely covering. That you've acknowledged that Fox News did feature criticism of the due process comments does indicate the presence of that view on Fox.

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This is not surprising. Foxnews is entertainment, not news. Ratings don't go up if they start rallying against Trump. Rallying against Obama got viewers. Heck they probably had a main page article about Hillary or Obama yesterday, they do everyday.
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This insight of a daily Fox News viewer adds much to this conversation.


Is it possible that despite the unsound character of seeking a warrant after taking an action, people don't think his proposal reflected consideration or even intent, and that this will never come to fruition, so it isn't a story of great magnitude?
 
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