Henry's New 41 Mag--Vaporware?

Absolutely!
Bigger bullet base smacks harder at increased rifle velocities.
Totally bypasses the need for bullet nose expansion.
Denis
 
I don't know, but my guess is if it's a longer COAL probably not, plus there might be some issue with a low-powered round generating enough pressure to function properly in the rifle--that would be a question I'd call Henry on. You thinking home defense? There are reduced loads for the conventional cases but as I recall you may need to be careful about low powder to case capacity.
 
Can't remember for sure--but that's a Keith-style cast bullet, right (oops, I think that's their bear load and I just noticed you said cowboy which I assume is a reduced load)? As we speak I'm rolling a batch of 210 xtp's driven by H110--one of the best loads I've ever found--top end velocity and accuracy.
 
Nice--that's actually cheaper per round than I can hand-load them myself--but your goal is to stay around 1000 fps--whereas mine is to approach 2000 fps. : )
 
Ready to rock with Big Boy Steel.


The bullet at lower right is marred because I read Denis post that he was just kidding--so I had to pull it and put it back on right side up.
 
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See Stag, aren't you glad I started the other thread and gave you 41 mag shooters a heads up on the new rifle? :D

I don't know, but my guess is if it's a longer COAL probably not, plus there might be some issue with a low-powered round generating enough pressure to function properly in the rifle--that would be a question I'd call Henry on. You thinking home defense? There are reduced loads for the conventional cases but as I recall you may need to be careful about low powder to case capacity.
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A lever action doesn't rely on pressure to operate it in any way. As long as the pressure is high enough to make sure the bullet exits the barrel you are good to go. I have small game loads for my 357 marlin that use a 360 round ball in a 357 case with 3grs of bullseye. The darn things are accurate out to 45 yards.

We really need a range report. You may have to bundle up and get out and shoot the rifle for us. Where are you at that you are having big storms? I am in north Tx and it is about 60* and short sleeve weather here. Gotta love TX.;)
 
See Stag, aren't you glad I started the other thread and gave you 41 mag shooters a heads up on the new rifle?

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I don't know, but my guess is if it's a longer COAL probably not, plus there might be some issue with a low-powered round generating enough pressure to function properly in the rifle--that would be a question I'd call Henry on. You thinking home defense? There are reduced loads for the conventional cases but as I recall you may need to be careful about low powder to case capacity.
A lever action doesn't rely on pressure to operate it in any way. As long as the pressure is high enough to make sure the bullet exits the barrel you are good to go. I have small game loads for my 357 marlin that use a 360 round ball in a 357 case with 3grs of bullseye. The darn things are accurate out to 45 yards.

We really need a range report. You may have to bundle up and get out and shoot the rifle for us. Where are you at that you are having big storms? I am in north Tx and it is about 60* and short sleeve weather here. Gotta love TX.
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LOL--I was wondering when you would drop by--yes--we are heavily indebted to your heads-up--thanx : )

I live in Maine and we're in the middle of a Polar Vortex storm right now. By tomorrow morning we'll probably have something around 2+ ft of snow on the ground--plus air temp below zero with windchills of -25. I don't mind shooting in the winter as long as it's high teens on up (keep in mind I'll be breaking the barrel in, too)--but even I have limits. : ) Rest assured I'll get out as soon as I can.

As for the 41 LC question--my guess is that it's case dimension might create problems--but don't know for sure. Low pressure rounds ARE fine--within limits, as you say
 
Stag and Kcub I am glad I could help. As for the 41 colt I think you can forget it. Its too short and the bullet diameter is too small. Especially the hollow based bullet that some were loaded with. My Marlin 32 mag is picky about bullet length. It WILL NOT feed 32 long rounds at all. If I want low power loads they are made with 32 mag brass.

If you are shooting 41 mag you are most likely a reloader. Its no big deal to load a lighter round. A 210gr bullet at 8-900fps should be a dandy home defense load. Light recoil and low muzzle blast.

And with that weather and temps I wouldn't be outside either. But if you will send me your rifle and a couple hundred rounds of ammo I will be glad to test it for you. I will even return it. Someday.:D
 
Low recoil 41 mag round data for carbines is kinda hard to come by--what little I've found reports poor results much under 8 to 900 fps--but I just don't know since I usually obsess about stuff at the other end of the spectrum.
 
Will this take .41 specials?
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The only things I was told by Henry in regards to cartridges (though I didn't ask about variants) for their new rifle was 1) It's rated to 44 mag +p pressures and 2) do not vary the specs for COL.--and when they said that it was specifically for cycling reliability.

I know many are interested in low-recoil possibilities--maybe Kcub can help with that if he wants to try them out--he seems interested in that as well, my interests lie purely with longer range high velocity hard-hitting hunting cartridges.
 
Sorry, but if this can't take .41 special cases, then that's a deal killer for me. Starline just brought out .41 special brass so...
 
Sorry, but if this can't take .41 special cases, then that's a deal killer for me. Starline just brought out .41 special brass so...
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Why not call Henry and ask? They seem to be very responsive to customer inquiries by phone.
 
I don't understand why everyone wants to shoot rounds in their guns that it is not chambered to take??? :confused: This rifle was built around the 41 magnum case. Shooting a shorter round will leave a carbon ring in the chamber just like shooting 38 specials in a 357 magnum.

As reloaders we can make any power level we want. Light load data is found in the Lyman #47 manual I have. Using 215-220gr lead bullets with 7.8grs of Unique will give you around 970fps for a start load. About 10.5 is the max with this powder. And I bet a smart reloader could use 4.5grs of bullseye with the same bullets for about 750fps. I use 5grs of bullseye under a 240gr bullet in the 44 mag and get 700-750fps checked with a chronograph. Data for light loads is out there. You have just got to look for it.
 
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