Henry H010 45-70 round count and durability

Henry H010

I got out and shot it for the first time this weekend and it shot amazingly. at 130 yards I was holding a 5" group with the ghost ring sights. it shot high and right at first then I got it zeroed in and now it shoots as good if not better than my marlin 336 .444. I bought the henry at Wall-Mart for around 680$ and plan on getting another one and doing a review on my YouTube channel. I am new at the YouTube stuff but if you all want to check it out, my channels name is Trevor Eldridge and my only video is the channel intro (worked on it over the weekend). if you all want me to review any guns just let me know and I will try my best to do it. also, the henry has a smoother action than any of the other leverguns I have. my favorite is probably my .444 but my henry could take its place.
 
changing youtube name

I will be changing my youtube name to T_PRO_Z shortly also that way it is easier to find. just look for the tall fellow outside holding a gun haha. I hope to upload at least 2 videos a week. I believe my next one will be a review of the henry H010 if you want to check it out to see what its made of.:)
 
JohnKSa,
I would agree that a high quality casting could be superior to a poor quality forging.

I would also agree that a high quality forging could be inferior to a high quality casting if both were of a different properties and they favored the cast piece.

And a casting with the advantage of better heat treating could be better than a lesser heat treated forging.

But reverse all of the above or at least equalize them and the forging will be stronger and more resistant to impact than a casting.

I'm not saying a Henry will not last because of the cast receiver.
 
Your bottom line IS the bottom line. :)
There's no reason whatever to pass on a Henry because of a cast receiver.
Denis
 
I would agree that a high quality casting could be superior to a poor quality forging.

I would also agree that a high quality forging could be inferior to a high quality casting if both were of a different properties and they favored the cast piece.

And a casting with the advantage of better heat treating could be better than a lesser heat treated forging.

But reverse all of the above or at least equalize them and the forging will be stronger and more resistant to impact than a casting.
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Which is another way to say that all of the following factors contribute to the strength/durability of a metal part.
  • Material Properties of the alloy used.
  • Quality
  • Heat treatment
  • Dimension/design
  • Forming method
All else being equal, the forming method is almost certainly the smallest contributor and yet, for some reason, people tend to focus on the forming method to the exclusion of all the other, more important factors.
 
Have to apologize.
Somewhere along the line in dealing with Henry I got the idea that the steelers are cast, along with the solid brassers.

Checked with a friend at the Wisconsin plant about the exact steel used, I was wrong about the process.

ALL Henry steel framed-centerfire leverguns are FORGED 4140 steel.
There are cast parts used in the guns, but not the frames.

Buy now, avoid the Christmas rush. :)

Denis
 
The brassers use a form of casting.

The problem with keeping everything straight with the Henrys is that they use so many different materials & processes.
Denis
 
let me just say this, I purchased a marlin to do a comparison video and I have to say I like the marlin a little better weight wise but the henry seems to be of a higher quality. now I just need to trade the marlin to a 45-70 TC Contender barrel. haha. anyone have one they'd want to get rid of?
 
They are cast, often from...er, lesser metals.
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I will ask again- what "lesser" material is Henry using?
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I think he may be referring to the Henry .22s, which are diecast Zamak which, by the way, I also think of as a "lesser" metal unless we're talking about window cranks.
 
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Was thinking earlier today if I had 50,000 rounds of .22LR on hand I didn't need, it'd be fun to take a GB I have here out & see how it'd hold up. :)

But, since the title of the thread was the .45-70, I'm assuming the comment was about the centerfires.
Unless it wasn't.
In which case, it wouldn't be.
Denis
 
gyvel,
I had a tooth strip on the hand crank for the vent window of my 1967 Chevy Caprice. At that time there wasn't all the restoration stuff around so I built the old tooth up with a tig welder. Now that was some garbage metal, it worked but I never opened that vent window again!
 
You guys should have learned something about metals by now !:p
I still have an impellor from a commercial jet ,about 3" dia ,stainless steel which operates at 90,000 rpm -- Investment cast steel. !!! a lot different from the cast iron or cast steel of 100 years ago ! Ruger's use of cast steel should be a lesson for you , they often use 4130 and 4140 are often used !

Investment cast is as good as forged these days .
 
Was thinking earlier today if I had 50,000 rounds of .22LR on hand I didn't need, it'd be fun to take a GB I have here out & see how it'd hold up.
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It would probably hold up just fine.

If not.. well, Henry is reported to have some of the best CS in the industry and stands by their products. I haven't had a single issue with my Henry though.. so I can't attest to having to deal with that aspect from Henry. That said, I did have a couple of questions before I bought mine and they were responded to quickly and thoroughly by the owner himself.
 
OK, 50,000 rounds of .22 LR was a bit on the high side realistically, but looks like 20,000 through a Golden Boy is a go.

Do not expect the results for a few months, this one'll take a while.

Finally had enough of the "pot metal" nonsense. :)
Denis
 
If it is then why does Ruger still use Forged barrels and cylinders?
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I suspect that there's no cost savings in using a cast cylinder or barrel as opposed to machining forged bar stock that's already close to the right dimensions.
 
I would think there would be a significant cost savings for cast as far as a ribbed GP 100 barrel is concerned.
 
my h010

Round count....i don't know, in the thousands. Some guys lie and tell their wives they are working late at the office, if they are drinking...or with another woman. I lie and drive 12 miles out of my way and blow 300 rounds at an old coal mine. My lever 45-70 Henry is my usual "lady of the evening". Ok....you will do well....accept one structural weakness in the design. The magazine tube itself has proven to me to be prone to dislodge under heavy recoil, and finally tore itself away, ripping the metal. I finally machined a thicker part and modified the anchorages to accommodate my heavy chamberings. Outside that....the weapon is quite robust.
 
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