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Antipitas said:First called, Khazad-dûm, by Durin.
Oh good lord!
Antipitas said:First called, Khazad-dûm, by Durin.
sitting on that inconvenient ratty old sheep skin all of these year
I thought it was written on HEMP...
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a lot of the Brady Campaign types actually believe that it Heller created the Second Amendment.
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No, they don't believe it. They know exactly what they're saying. And that's the worst part.
What they are doing is proclaiming "what they WISH was true". They know it isn't true. But, like a young child, they tell a story as if it were true, because they wish that it was true. These are people who have a mental disorder of some type. They cannot accept the real truth, so they go around living their lives trying to make truths out of things which are unrealistic. They are living subjective lives.
Except that nobody's really listening to them anymore. They were a huge threat at one point. They were able to dictate government policy in the 1990's. Now, they can't even get a lawyer to assemble a decent court brief for them, and their satellite organizations are closing due to lack of funding. Starbucks won't even give them the time of day.Actually, I think they're subscribing to an old tactic of famous (or more likely infamous) propagandists:
"If you repeat the same lie often enough, eventually it becomes the truth."
So, let 'em shout all they want. Philosophically, they're adrift in the Withywindle without a paddle.
And without the life that the second amendment protects, all other rights are null and void.Without the Second Amendment there are no other rights because they can all be taken away.
Nope. Four Justices decided as they were pre-inclined to do. The Brady Campaign took credit for that. There's no causality, however.They did get four Justices to agree with them in Heller.
The anti gunners have lost two of their biggest arguments.
Agreed. Or OC, but just as CCW was frowned upon and seen as underhanded in society 200 years ago, open carry is seen as rude, at best, in modern society. So, yeah, CCW, but I would hate to see an expansion of the Texas model where, if your shirt blows open once, and someone sees it, you get taken to the hoosegow.Need to get CCW in there soon though.
open carry is seen as rude, at best, in modern society. So, yeah, CCW, but I would hate to see an expansion of the Texas model where, if your shirt blows open once, and someone sees it, you get taken to the hoosegow.
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The anti gunners have lost two of their biggest arguments.
Yes they have and with each decision that goes our way in the courts it will make it harder to reverse those decisions by a later liberal court. Need to get CCW in there soon though.
Please don't take offense, but couching it in those terms is exactly why some people are leery of the gun culture.I'm getting awfully tired of the sheep who are scared poopless by the mere sight of a gun, unless someone in uniform is carrying it.
+1mack59 said:"in a way it is not even so much just guns as it is control."
The idea of punishing people who act out of ignorance isn't the way to do that. It's harder, but more rewarding in the long run, to take the time to convince the skeptics.
I believe they are motivated by an intense desire to win at all costs - to control "how things shall be", and are genuinely convinced that a magical absence of legal firearms ownership would lead to an drastic reduction of crime - despite brutal evidence to the contrary in both cases. "Guns" per se have taken a back seat to this desperate need to control their environment, to enforce their personal utopian dreams on the rest of society.
I wonder to what extent it may be true that "anti-gunners" are simply individuals who have not yet been victims of violent crimes? I doubt that their skepticism will be overcome by any less compelling argument...
But how many hard-core anti-gunners are left at this point, and how much influence do they really have? Trust me, folks have been quietly defecting from their camp for quite some time.It's been too long and too irrational a fight waged by the anti-gunners for me to placate them any longer. I just don't have the patience to argue with them or try and convince them their beliefs are incorrect.