Help purchasing service weapon.

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Airforceshooter hit the nail on the head. The people with experience in your department will steer you in the right direction. I carried a .38 with +p's on patrol in New York City for many years and never felt out-gunned. I eventually switched to the Glock 19 and think it is a great gun that served me well. That being said, I do not think a .380 is an option. I would much rather (6) .38+p's and speedloaders to any amount of .380. I think your choice should be between the 38 and Taurus 40. Now that I am retired and can carry whatever I want, 99% of the time I carry my .38 cheif with +p's.
 
According to what dim knowledge of Brazilian gun laws I have, I would opt for a .38 super since It's legal and more powerful than 9mm. I also believe Taurus makes a few .38 supers of which I would probably get the pt1911.
 
I could say it is high federal taxes as they do, but I know they are lying. The thing here is unless you're in the federal police or VERY rich you cannot import weapons. Taurus has an upcoming .38 super pistol, but it's still to be homologated by the military. Also, the current law strictly forbids civilians (meaning not from the armed forces) from owning weapons in calibers that produce more than 350J ( with the exception of federal police officers, collectors and registered competition shooters). For the state polices, a law allowed the use of the .40 specifically. For instance, the .357 sig (which would be my choice) and the 5.7 are not available options either. My instructor was of the opinion no police officer should buy a registered gun, so I doubt his advice would be helpful. Actually, my major concern was this (which I think was partially solved by now). Is the .380 such a weak caliber that it makes a much superior weapon (lighter, less bulky, less prone to failure, better trigger) worse than an inferior one in .40? Thanks for the help you all. :D
 
40 vs 380 and your quantity limitation

Jalbuquerque,

At the risk of repeating myself, I will respond to your sentence:

Actually, my major concern was this (which I think was partially solved by now). Is the .380 such a weak caliber that it makes a much superior weapon (lighter, less bulky, less prone to failure, better trigger) worse than an inferior one in .40? Thanks for the help you all.
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by stating an opinion: You can take a Taurus .40 and make it reliable by having a good gunsmith tune it. You cannot take a good reliable Glock 9x17 and make it into a 40.

Stated another way:

Your .380 Glock will always be chambered for the inferior cartridge. (Given that you are prohibited from converting it to 9x19)

The Taurus will always be chambered for the superior cartridge and reliability can be improved by a good gunsmith.

About your 300 cartridge per year limitation. Would you be able to practise handloading? A decent reloading kit can be assembled that will fit in a large suitcase. A marginal kit can be made that will fit in a shoebox. Using either kit, anyone can produce high-quality ammunition, it is just slower with the really small setup. If you can get primers, powder and bullets, you can reload your spent brass several times, turning 300 per year into 2,000 per year or more (For practice only. You probably should still use regulation ammo for on-duty use. Bureaucrats tend to look askance at officers using anything not department-approved.)

Does the 300 cartridge limit apply to the 380, or just the .40? That might change my choice, especially if your factory ammunition is Berdan-primed. Berdan primered ammo is more difficult to reload than boxer primed cartridges.

Good luck.

Lost Sheep
 
jalbuquerque
Incoming PM to you on the Taurus 24/7 in .40 S&W in the model you asked about. There are a lot of links, but they have ammo,holster, and other data in them.
 
Im personally recomend.....:barf: Taurus.

We've had bad experiance with them, however that has been with US Customer Service. Possibly being in the actual country where they are made, it would be easier to get maintained?

Overall, I don't like taurus, but I haven't seen the actual functioning to be that bad except when needing parts...

So, .40 Taurus trumps .380 Glock. In my opinion.
 
I would ask other members of the department you are going to be a part of. What do most of them carry? Besides the gun you can start building a network of guys you will work with and start finding out about them. I carried a 1911 in .45 ACP years ago, although many other guns were permitted. Of course I owned one and liked it, but all the senior officers carried them.
 
Wow...

It is amazing how many people don't understand what is written (typed). He only has access too one or the other.

It is your choice but a ..380 as opposed to a a .40 S&W...even the glockonators if they could read, I think would go with the .40 S&W.

Comprehension I'm afraid is truly dead in America......
 
Thought that sharing the links might be a good idea as others might be interested in the 24/7 in .40 S&W. Not .380ACP.:rolleyes::eek:

Holster and some ammo links were thrown in as well.

http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/index.php?topic=6667.0

http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/index.php?topic=15613.0
http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/index.php?topic=31455.0
http://www.tauruarmed.net/forums/index.php?topic=27035.0

http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/index.php?topic=29976.0

http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/index.php?topic=10006.0

http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/index.php?topic=20392.0

http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/index.php?topic=29115.0
http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/index.php?topic=27966.0
http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/index.php?topic=29220.0

I do not own a 24/7 pistol, but do own it's kin, a PT111 Mil/Pro.

I think hearing from the actual owners is more important than hearing anything second hand or worse.

There is this:
http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/index.php?board=26.0
 
We also have a limit on the amount of ammunition an officer can buy for the .40 (300/year).
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This is actually a greater concern than the power of the cartridge. 300 rounds per year, IMHO, just isn't enough to provide enough practice, much less cover duty ammo too. If you can get more ammo, I reccomend .380 because your proficiency with the gun always trumps caliber.
 
Thanks a lot for the help, again. Yes, I'm going with the .40. Well, the 300 limit applies to all calibers, but that's for factory loaded ones. Me and my friends currently use reloaded ammo for practice. I will use the difference to buy a snubnose .38 as a backup weapon. Again, thank you a lot for the input.
 
Thanks a lot for the help, again. Yes, I'm going with the .40. Well, the 300 limit applies to all calibers, but that's for factory loaded ones. Me and my friends currently use reloaded ammo for practice. I will use the difference to buy a snubnose .38 as a backup weapon. Again, thank you a lot for the input.
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Ah, now see? There was another option.

I was starting to wonder if becoming an LEO in your country was akin to suicide! I'm glad to hear that they allow you to carry a revolver in addition to a Taurus club.

:)

Daryl
 
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I was starting to wonder if becoming an LEO in your country was akin to suicide! I'm glad to hear that they allow you to carry a revolver in addition to a Taurus club. End of Quote.

Back up the claim Daryl.
 
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