Help on Win 94, dried out/frozen solid

The best choice for freeing up the hardened grease and oil is a sonic cleaner but if you don't have one of those, try a hot solvent. You can pick up a food service tray at a restaurant supply for a few dollars. Any other long narrow metal tray will work too. Fill it with some kind of WATER based solvent like Simple Green or the purple stuff? and put it on the stove or barbecue. Heat it to a slow boil and put the rifle in it. The heat and solvent will expand the metal and soften the hardended grease/oil. Lite taps with a brass hammer on a concealed area will help too. Leave it in there for a while and keep it at a slow boil. Keep adding water as it boils away to keep the level up.

It's important that the whole thing is submerged or surface rust will form on the exposed metal. After a while, remove it and blow dry it with compressed air or even a hair dryer. Most of the water will quickly evaporate anyway due to the heat. As long as the whole thing stays submerged, rust formation will be very minimal. This will free it up if it's stuck due to hardened grease.

Do NOT use any kind of automotive type of hot tank cleaning system! Those are fine for steel but if there's any Aluminum or Brass, etc. it will get disolved. A buddy cleaned his Wife's Aluminum lawn furniture in the shops hot tank. It all just disappeared. 100% disolved. He told his Wife somebody stole it out of the back of his truck. Keep yer powder dry, Mac.
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Even if it wont it'll free up a gun that's been buried in the ground for no tellin how many years and rusted up tight. See pic posted earlier.
 
Well we ain't heard from stove guy lately. Perhaps he lost the thread or is really taking the two week soak it regimen to heart. Ain't it a shame how people abused old Winchesters? Seen so many 94's that were just ate up and trashed, but if they are pre 64 some idiot seller at a gun show wants 4-500$ for it.
 
Still soaking

Hi, y'all. Yes, I'm still soaking, but I'm going to break it open this week and check to see if the dried grease still has it frozen up. I'll let you know what I find. I'm amazed at the number of really good ideas and suggestions that came out of this group. I was just shooting in the dark, but this bunch was coming up with all kinds of great strategies. I'm too old to be easily impressed, but frankly, I'm impressed. When I finally get finished with this project, I'm going to give my friend a printout of all the posts to this thread. That will be a keepsake to stash away with the rifle, which I think is destined to go to a grandson. Anyway, I'll keep you posted.
 
the first post said no bluing left but no RUST. i don,t think i would buy any thing from him that he said had (no bluing but no rust) that gun is a dug up relic and no more than a wall hanger. eastbank
 
the first post said no bluing left but no RUST. i don,t think i would buy any thing from him that he said had (no bluing but no rust) that gun is a dug up relic and no more than a wall hanger. eastbank

You need to pay more attention to what you read.
Woodstoveguy made the first post. I put up the pic of the dug 92 and Gbro put up a link to a dug 94.
 
I think you've gotten good advice here. The only thing I might add is to consider the posibility it may be mechanically locked up somehow, possibly a ruptured shell in the chamber?
Patience is the key here. Don't give up!
Andy
 
opened it up

and checked if I could remove the trigger/tang assembly from the receiver. Still frozen in there. However, I did notice that the dried grease/oil on the inside of the receiver, which had been very hard to dislodge with scraping, has now turned into a flakey powder, easily removed. So with patience, the fluid should eventually penetrate between the receiver walls and the trigger/tang assembly. My friend said "Let 'er soak," so it went back in, and it's sealed up for however long it takes. Not nearly as sexy as a sonic vibrator bath, but this retired guy has more time than money. Let 'er soak. I'll let y'all know -- hope to post some pics when it's completed. (How's that for optimism ::D )
 
I'd switch to kerosene and any rapping of the action or receiver would be done with a rubber hammer. (Like a hub-cap hammer)
 
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