Help me choose my 6 lifetime guns (outide the US) :-)

[Bachá]

Bacha', Are the Swiss or German SIG P210s available in your area? ...

BTW, I was issued a Glock, carried a Glock, was a LE Glock armorer, etc. Even so, Glocks were not a favorite of mine either. But as you say, Glocks are everywhere, and there is much to be said for support, availability of parts, accessories, etc.

Thanks... No, all sigs here are us made. On the plus side, the store is a sig authorized dealer.

Yeah... I sold my beretta, just because I wanted to try something else, and the compact doesnt offer anything over the full size. Plus the sights suck for my poor vision. But yeah, each gun I will buy I have to consider lifetime purchases... would you consider US made sigs in the same quality? enough to be considered a lifetime gun?

 

[Bachá]

If I were limited to six total guns, one would have to be a .22 LR pistol and one would have to be a .22 LR rifle. If only one shotgun, it would be a nice over/under.

Each of the handguns you have listed above look like solid choices.

Yes ... a 10/22 is in my list...but not now. Thanks...

Why would you choose an over/under?

 

[CDR_Glock]

Glock 30S. 15 yards, freehanded.

Not my carry gun. I probably shoot the 30 a little better. It's an excellent gun for a 45 ACP.

The FN FNX 45 is a better choice with 16 rounds. I have an FN FNP 45 which has a great trigger. If I could have only one 45 ACP, I'd have to say the FN is the winner for me, and I have a few 1911s.

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[Bachá]

I bought and sold MANY guns to get to what works for me

I didnt notice in your post HOW you plan to carry

If its IWB, (The way I carry) I would get an M&P Shield AND/OR M&P Compact
(I have both)

They are not 1911s, they are not set for competition.

Yes than you... I know trying differnt guns is ideal, but it is a complete pain in the neck in my country. Not to mention I woud loose tons of money on each sell.

The beretta I used to carry off body or IWB. I put less importance to that (maybe a mistake) because all the factors I mention.

We cant modify barrels :-( we have a lot of restrictions and prices suck, but at least we have the best gun laws in the region.

 

[Bachá]

Glock 30S. 15 yards, freehanded.

Not my carry gun. I probably shoot the 30 a little better. It's an excellent gun for a 45 ACP.

The FN FNX 45 is a better choice with 16 rounds. I have an FN FNP 45 which has a great trigger. If I could have only one 45 ACP, I'd have to say the FN is the winner for me, and I have a few 1911s.


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Thanks... beutiful collection! I would like a 1911 too...

The FNX if beautiful, and great fire power. But for an EDC and concealment... not so sure I would find a way to handle it effectively... That is what turned my head to the G30... but man glock prices suck in my country.

 

[Bachá]

Thanks... yes, the Sphinx is really nice, a little nicer finished than the CZs but in shooting I couldnt tell...

Yes, .22 is fairly cheap... not as in the US but decent.

 

[Bachá]

It really depends on how willing you are to carry larger guns. My default recommendation for someone looking for a carry and/or general use gun would be either a Glock 43 or Glock 19. They are not beautiful guns, in my opinion, but they are extremely reliable, very durable, relatively cheap, parts and support are plentiful in most places, and they are reasonably sized for concealed carry (19 is also a good size for range use). Really, they only fail on the "coolness" factor.).

Thanks... well, I was carrying the 92 IWB fairly well.. I put confort very far in my priorities because with all my other limitations I am willing to sacrifice confort.

Is not the lack of coolness that bothers me about the polymer wonders, its the prices they are sold for here :-(

Either way I think you and the other ways who said it are right... I must think on practicality first, even if it is very expensive.

 

[CDR_Glock]

Thanks... beutiful collection! I would like a 1911 too...



The FNX if beautiful, and great fire power. But for an EDC and concealment... not so sure I would find a way to handle it effectively... That is what turned my head to the G30... but man glock prices suck in my country.

With the proper holster and clothing you can conceal a full sized gun, unless you're very thin. The Glock 30 is solid. Very reliable.


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[JDBerg]

If I had to sell off my handguns "again" (long story), the 2 I'd buy back FIRST would probably be my CZ 75B and my S&W 686 6" bbl.

 

[Independent George]

Given the limitations you face, I'd say that parts/support are going to be one of the most important factors in your choices. You really don't want to be in a situation where you end up spending $2,000 on a paperweight. Every gun you list is good, but the availability of support could be a problem.

For that reason alone, the ones on your list that I most question are the FNX-45, and the Sphinx SDP.

I actually love the FNX-45, but .45 ACP is not as popular outside the US, so ammunition supply (and cost) might be a problem in the future. The gun is also huge - it looks and feels bigger than the dimensions indicate, if that makes sense to you.

I've never handled the Sphinx SDP, but have heard good things about it. The problem is that it's a pretty obscure gun with limited support even in the US; that probably adds to the 'coolness' factor, but as a practical gun, you might have problems if you need to replace a spring, etc.

I'm biased, but I think a CZ-75B series (or one of the Tanfoglio clones) would be a good replacement for either. But again - there's absolutely nothing wrong with any of the guns you listed, and I trust you have a better idea of what kind of support you'd have than I ever would.

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[FITASC]

Given the limitations you face, I'd say that parts/support are going to be one of the most important factors in your choices.

Add ammo availability to that equation. Those factors make up the "form follows function" part of the equation.

 

[Bachá]

Given the limitations you face, I'd say that parts/support are going to be one of the most important factors in your choices. You really don't want to be in a situation where you end up spending $2,000 on a paperweight. Every gun you list is good, but the availability of support could be a problem.

For that reason alone, the ones on your list that I most question are the FNX-45, and the Sphinx SDP.

I actually love the FNX-45, but .45 ACP is not as popular outside the US, so ammunition supply (and cost) might be a problem in the future. The gun is also huge - it looks and feels bigger than the dimensions indicate, if that makes sense to you.

I've never handled the Sphinx SDP, but have heard good things about it. The problem is that it's a pretty obscure gun with limited support even in the US; that probably adds to the 'coolness' factor, but as a practical gun, you might have problems if you need to replace a spring, etc.

I'm biased, but I think a CZ-75B series (or one of the Tanfoglio clones) would be a good replacement for either. But again - there's absolutely nothing wrong with any of the guns you listed, and I trust you have a better idea of what kind of support you'd have than I ever would.

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Thanks,,, ammo is plentiful, and 9 mm .40 and .45 are equally available, of course each one more expensive than the other. Many people carry 1911, 2011 and glock 45 here, maybe because of that. People hate compact firearms here...

There is CZ representative here... the CZ P07 could be other option. Unfortunately they dont import the other models that I could be interested in... again, people dont like compact5 guns so they mostly import the bigger guns.

 

[Bachá]

Add ammo availability to that equation. Those factors make up the "form follows function" part of the equation.

9 mm .40 and .45 are readily available here... of course 9mm is the most popular.

.38 and .357 are more rare because almost nobody have revolvers. .44 magnum or the other revolver cartridges only a couple of shops shell them.

10 mm good luck finding that...

Either way, we can only buy 250 rounds per month. You need a special permit to buy more... I dont have the time or money to shoot much more than that anyway.

 

[Bachá]

Another "fun fact" about our gun laws...

Some ranges sell ammo, and you can buy as much as you want there if you spend it all there... also, you cant shoot your firearms ANYWHERE but in authorized shooting ranges.

 

[Mosin44az]

Bacha, I can't see where you say what country you live in. Weird mixture of gun laws! No need to say if it's a problem, just curious.

 

[Bachá]

Bacha, I can't see where you say what country you live in. Weird mixture of gun laws! No need to say if it's a problem, just curious.

Yes, I prefer not to tell where I live. Sorry. Want to hear another funny gun law? We don't have any restrictions on how short a rifle or shotgun can be, our restrictions is how long it can be no more than a 26 inch barrel...

 

[Bachá]

So narrowed down my options to two... Please tell me what you think guys:

1. Glock 30 for $1800 :-( seems the most practical option, easier concealment, more comfortable carry... And it's a deal :-o normally they are $250 more. Also my dream carbine is a kriss vector in. 45 so it would make sense. We do have a distributor here... Plus, I wouldn't feel like a fool paying that much money for a glock :-S

2. SR1911 plus sw 642 for $2460 well, two guns better than one I guess. Ample support for 1911s here, lightweight small. 38 for deep concealment situations.

So, what would you do?

 

[PatientWolf]

So if I read your OP correctly, you are looking for 6 suggestions on "lifetime guns"; 1 shotgun, 1 carbine/rifle, and 4 (probably hammer-fired) pistols.


If I were in that situation I would probably not feel I was missing anything with the following choices:

Pistols:
1911 in .45 ACP (Alternate: CZ-75 Omega in 9mm)
GP-100 in .357 Mag (Alternates: S&W 586 or 686) 4-5" barrel.
Ruger Single Six (Alternates: S&W model 17 Masterpiece or Ruger SP-101) .22LR
Sig Sauer 938 as a CCW (alternates: S&W Shield (striker fire), Springfield Armory XD-E or Kahr PM9 (also striker fired)).

Shotgun:
Mossberg 500 or Remington 870 12-ga combo (slug and shot barrels) (alternates Benelli M2, M4 or Nova)

Rifle/Carbine:
Rossi R92 in .357 Mag or .44 Mag (Alternates: Marlin 1894 in .357 or .44 Mag, Marlin 336 in 30-30, Winchester '94 in 30-30 or Marlin 1895 in 45-70).

If I misunderstood, just ignore this post.

 

[raimius]

Of those choices (G30 or SR1911/S&W642), I'd probably go with the 1911 and J-frame. That said, I have a soft spot for 1911s, but I say it's the better option because either could be carried, 1911s are easy to shoot well, and I dislike pistols I can't get a full grip on--especially in larger calibers.

 

[Mosin44az]

The 1911 and airweight are classic choices, if you can stand the Airweight's recoil. Add the G30 and the Kriss and you have an interesting 4 of the 6. Add a SIG 9mm you like and you are almost done.

I'm not a fan of Airweights because of the recoil. If you know you won't mind it, go w number 2 for now.