"Heat" the movie

Steve Smith

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Has anyone seen this? It must be kinda old, as I saw the "preview" on a rented "Get Shorty" tape last night. Looked like a good gun movie.

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AKA "Ol' Slewfoot"
Frontsight! has changed, and when the time is right, Ol' Slewfoot will emerge.
 
Yes, a good movie with great shooting in it! That is the scenes are good, and the sound almost gives me goose-bumps. :) :)

The showed it on TV here last night, have seen it before and happened to turn on TV some time into the movie, had it on while playing on the computer, so at least I got all the sound. :) Regret that I didn't tape it...

/Mikke
 
Heat is a damn fine movie, it has the most realistic gunfire sounds of all time.
You HAVE to hear it in surround.

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Big Guns again
No speakee well
But plain.
--H.C
 
Much better than the average bank-robbery movie, which generally put me to sleep. Pacino and De Niro are incredible together.
 
Heat has one of the best shootout scenes of all time, IMHO. I believe it came out in '96 to mixed reviews. I saw it in the theater, and I can still remember the goose bumps and sweaty palms I got watching the shootout scene. I have it on DVD now, and it's one of the "demonstration" scenes that I show people when showing off my home theater system.

As far as the whole movie (not just the shootout scene), it's pretty good if you like Michael Mann films. He's done alot of similar stuff, including Miami Vice back in the '80s. Most criticisms of this movie are that it is a little on the long side with too many subplots. I happen to love it...

As an aside, Heat was rumored to be a favorite movie of the thugs responsible for the LA bank robbery shootout.
 
Without a doubt, the BEST shootout scene ever filmed.

The plot is decent as well, well written and a good cast.
 
Yeah Michael Mann is pretty good with the realism.

He also did Crime Story back in the mid 80's. Remember Mike Torrello of the MCU? It was very realistic especially the period clothing and sets and cars. The pilot was the best, have it on tape.

Too bad the ensuing series imploded due to lack of ideas.
 
That gun battle will give you a raging woody,!

Any ideas how they put such realistic bullet holes in the car bodies? Do you think the vehicles were shot in some canyon and then repaired with planted squibs? This seems sensible enough.

Any way you cut it, this is a great flick. Definitely something for the DVD with Surround Sound...and a kickin' bass!

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When Reason Fails.....
 
One of the few movies I actually bought so I could watch it repeatedly. Sometimes I just pop in tape 2 to watch the robbery. :D
 
The actors must have had some good instuctors . Shooting stances were correct and the magazines didn't hold 300 rnds. each. I read that that it took them eight weekends to film that shootout.
 
I want one of the rifles that Val Kilmer has!

By my estimate, almost 2,000 rounds fired from a single magazine with no reloads, and no muzzle climb at all!

Heat is a fantastic movie, and not just from the gunfight angle.

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Beware the man with the S&W .357 Mag.
Chances are he knows how to use it.
 
Andy McNabb of BravoTwoZero (SAS in Iraq)fame was the guy that choreographed that gunfight.

Excellent movie.
 
Ditto to all of the above.
There was one aspect of the shootout scene that really impressed me. As the cops were loading up to go after the BG's, Al Pacino cautions his fellow LEO's to "watch their field of fire".
Considering that they were about to get into a shootout in a crowded urban area, with an abundance of defenseless civilians all around, that one sentence was probably the most responsible piece of dialog I've ever heard come out of a Hollywood gunfight.
 
Speaking of instruction of the actors....

First, Michael Mann is a shooter. He's attended several of the shooting schools, including Gunsite.

Secondly, Mann contracted with the Los Angeles Sheriff's Dept., to use one of their ranges at the sprawling Weapons Training Facility at Pitchess Detention Center, in Saugus, north L.A. County, for the training sessions.

The SAS guy was the overall trainer, but several LASD Weapons Training Instructors of the Advanced Training Bureau, were used to train the actors, especially in the standard "police technique" of handgun, shotgun, rifle, and submachine gun shooting, so the "cops" would look authentic.

All practice and firing was under the constant supervison of LASD Instructors.

Sidlelight: Al Pacino hates, loathes and despises firearms. As soon as he'd finish firing a gun, he'd literally throw it down on the mattress beside him, as if it were something obscene in his hands. His attitude, especially to the "blue collar laborors," was very typical of your usual mega millionaire liberal.

DeNiro, although very standoffish and reserved, soon took to the instruction, and learned as much as possible in the time they were there, although there had to be an "attitude adjustment" with him and his manager, before the actual firing began.

Val Kilmer? Kilmer was a shooter, par excellance! Friendly, outgoing, extremely interested in learning all he could, and made friends with the LASD instructors. He's a shooter, too.

Triva: DeNiro got "conned" by one of the inmate trustees, who worked the range. (P.D.C. is a very large prison, containing, usually, up to 18,000 prisoners. Some of the prisoners become trustees, and they work, among other things, the ranges, pulling and pasting targets, mowing the lawns, and myriad duties.) One of them, totally against orders, got next to DeNiro, conned him ("I just wanna go straight, Bobby..."), and even got DeNiro's home phone number!!

Anyway, that's how the actors were trained in "realistic shooting." FWIW. J.B.
 
Question for Jay Baker. Were the sounds of the weapons "dubbed" or were they actually from the scenes being shot? Mike Irwin, Watch it again. They were constantly changing magazines.
 
Correia: really? McNab worked on that movie? Cool, that guy's books are great (humerous and interesting at the same time).

The opening scene and the bank exit scene bout 2/3 of the way through the movie are the best parts. Let's see, FALs, FNC, loads of ARs, HK-91, SIG, Galil, and a lot more than I can remember off the top of my head.
 
Pacino's rifle in the end where he shoots Micheal Churino (sp?)...what is it? Looks like an FN of some sort, just can't identify it.


Hueco
 
Mickthenailer (related to Bob??), No, the sounds of gunfire were later dubbed in by sound engineers. On a set, the guns are loaded with blanks and of course, the guns are also altered so they will function with the "squibs." So the sound of a gun(s) being fired on screen during filming, would barely translate to a "pop" on the sound track.

Sometimes, Not always, however, when one sees a machine gun firing on screen, with that great burst of fire from the muzzle, it will be a mock up of a machine gun that has a hose in the barrel attached to s propane tank (OFF SCREEN). The gas hose is turned on for the filming and when the actor pulls the trigger, a spark ignites the propane rushing through the barrel (hose), and voila! graphic effects! Sound of gunfire is added later by the sound engineer.

Lots of tricks in "show biz."

J.B.
 
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