Hawes 1851 Colt Navy barrel wedge problem

I read the patent and considered it, and you got my evaluation of it (several times now).
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Fair enough, but there are other members who might learn from it, dismiss it or whatever.

That's what makes it outdated and irrelevant to todays Colt pattern C&B revolvers.
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I agree that it does not apply to Italian repros, at least not Pietta and Uberti, but it's still relevent to the essence of a Colt, and in the case of my Pietta 1860 .44, adding a larger headed screw fixed the problem I had with it, which brings it back into relevancy.

I do not believe Colt ever produced ANY wedges as the patent from 1839 depicts.
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Based on...what?
 
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I do not believe Colt ever produced ANY wedges as the patent from 1839 depicts.

Based on...what?

Have you ever seen a wedge for a Colt pattern revolver constructed according to this patent? I have not.

Colt never fit the arbor as we have to do today, so that makes the method we use as relevant also.
 
My only point was that, originally, according to that patent, the wedge screw was used to check the depth of the wedge. And, like I said, it still applies to my Colt that was made in 1862, but not to my Piettas or Ubertis. That's all. Not looking for an argument, just pointing something out. If you read my other posts concerning this topic and dismissed them before, why read my posts again?
 
Wow, you like to argue, huh? In big bold letters even. Wow.
Are you serious? No, I have never held or examined an original Colt Paterson. So what? Obviously they (the wedges described) were produced...so what? I will repeat myself one more time...slowly...
All I said was that, at one time, Colt designed the wedge screw to temper the force of the wedge. And I even provided a patent, a Sam Colt patent, to back up that statement. Nothing more. If I had read the same post by someone else, even if I didn't agree that it was relevant, I would not have called it outdated because, well, it isn't, and I certainly would not have demanded IN BIG BOLD LETTERS, if the poster had ever seen one.
Ho hum. This is getting boring.
 
Revolvers at 20 paces!

Mr. Pohill.....Mr. Junkman:

You gentlemen can meet on the field of honor at sunrise. Seconds in attendance. Wedges in your revolvers optional.

Listen, guys, I'm a newbie in this forum and I enjoy the Hell out of reading these posts and threads. Even old dogs learn new things. I had the same problem years ago with a .36 Colt (my first b/p revolver) and I fixed it the way any mis-guided neophyte would have fixed it: I CAREFULLY took a piece of emory cloth and and sanded the wedge down until the cyclinder rotated the way God and Mr. Colt intended it should. Shot the thing for years, both blanks and live fire. Never had a problem with it. No, the gap between cylinder and barrel didn't open up and cause endless jump-fire problems. Not for me, anyway. I traded that pistol away, don't remember what I traded it for, now, but I remember the fella I traded it to used it to merrily blast Yankees at re-enactments for many years afterward.
C'mon, the guy had/has a problem with his pistol and he's asking here for help, just like I may do in the future. He's luckier than I was, he has a computer website forum to go to for advice. (I'm not certain computers had been invented when I had my problem) so I sat down, looked at it and used a bit of 'Southern Ingenuity' to fix it and, guess what? It worked!
Always Remember............
Yankees-1 Confederates-0 Halftime
 
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Hawg Haggen said:
You're driving the wedge in too deep. On a new gun it should just be flush on the side opposite the screw.
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As Hawg Haggan stated, if there's different ways to deal with an arbor problem then the OP should know.
Not everyone wants to fix their arbor or are able to do it themselves.
Some members here have mentioned how they've fixed the arbor problem on some of their guns and not others.
Meanwhile they can try working with the key [wedge].
It's recognized that one can treat the symptom or the problem directly.
And every member of this forum has the same right to post without being attacked or needing to repeatedly defend the reasons for their posts.
Members are equal under the forum rules and decorum should be followed.
Being respectful, courteous and polite is an important priority. :)
 
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