Have you switched your concealed carry gun? Why?
- Thread starter glock06
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It sure must be nice to be psychic and know just how many rounds you'll need to solve any given problem.
Seeings how I must be related to Murphy, I believe I'll continue to err on the side of high caps and excess. Better to have 11 or 12 left out of 13, and a couple of reloads to boot, than to come up a couple short, only to find I'm on the wrong side of the statistics.
Even if you need 5 rounds or less, your still in the wrong place.
Seeings how I must be related to Murphy, I believe I'll continue to err on the side of high caps and excess. Better to have 11 or 12 left out of 13, and a couple of reloads to boot, than to come up a couple short, only to find I'm on the wrong side of the statistics.
Even if you need 5 rounds or less, your still in the wrong place.
Brian Pfleuger
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It's personal choice thing. Historical SD incidents indicate that more than 2 rounds are almost never needed (less than 1%). If you, or anyone else, wants to be prepared for the 1% or the .00001% or whatever then that's cool. I'd be perfectly comfortable with 6 and I certainly have no issues with my 9+1 and I'm the "unluckiest" guy on the planet.
But its still a hell of a lot better than 5 or 6, and I can continue twice as long without that annoying clicking noise when I was looking for a bang.
Its right behind the seat, along with a headband, and one of Gallagher's muscle suits.
Absolutely. If your comfortable with 5 or 6, by all means carry what your comfortable with. I do, it just carries twice the on board ammo, thats all.
I'll bet when you do need them, you'd "almost" wished you brought something else along, eh?
Hey, carry what you want, your the one that has to solve the problem with what you got along, so if your comfortable with internet gun board statistics, and that any or all of your encounters will easily be solved with 2 rounds, why bother with a 5 shot at all? You might as well just get a derringer, why would you need anything else? More than 2 rounds are almost never needed.
troy_mclure
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i switched from a sa xd40sc carried sob, to a keltec p32 in my right rear pocket.
That first shot!
Me too. Or if cold, a sweater, or jacket, but always in the same place, same cut down Glock holster.
Glock 17, then Glock 19, I own a few Glocks, all 9mm, reference the need for only 5 or 6 rounds, a few have made that comment, i own many mechanical devices, that work fine... My crystal ball is not one of them.
Mr. Ayoob's statement that the first shot is the most important one, I go along with, so why make it 12lbs double action? or protected by a mechanical safety device?
The most important shot of your life, and the rest to follow feel different?
I carry a Glock 19 as a part time Security Officer, and same one every day concealed, a black one.
IDPA a green Glock 19, both identical, same trigger and TruGlow sights.
Do I think I might need 16 rounds right off the bat? I don't think about it, or the Glock 17 magazine as a malfunction device? I don't think about that either.
Me too. Or if cold, a sweater, or jacket, but always in the same place, same cut down Glock holster.
Glock 17, then Glock 19, I own a few Glocks, all 9mm, reference the need for only 5 or 6 rounds, a few have made that comment, i own many mechanical devices, that work fine... My crystal ball is not one of them.
Mr. Ayoob's statement that the first shot is the most important one, I go along with, so why make it 12lbs double action? or protected by a mechanical safety device?
The most important shot of your life, and the rest to follow feel different?
I carry a Glock 19 as a part time Security Officer, and same one every day concealed, a black one.
IDPA a green Glock 19, both identical, same trigger and TruGlow sights.
Do I think I might need 16 rounds right off the bat? I don't think about it, or the Glock 17 magazine as a malfunction device? I don't think about that either.
orionengnr
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Exactly.
I have been through nearly a dozen, and since I bought the PM9, it hasn't been much of a contest. It's been my constant companion for nine months of each year (in the "winter" I experiment with larger options).
This year I haven't switched back (yet) and hope not to. I'm carrying the PM9's big brother, the P45 (IWB).
I have been through nearly a dozen, and since I bought the PM9, it hasn't been much of a contest. It's been my constant companion for nine months of each year (in the "winter" I experiment with larger options).
This year I haven't switched back (yet) and hope not to. I'm carrying the PM9's big brother, the P45 (IWB).
Microgunner
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Yep, I change out carry guns ever now and again, mostly out of boredom. I go between a Springfield Armory EMP, a HK P7 PSP, A SA XD40 compact, a Glock M27, a Colt's Officer ACP and I even carry a Kel-Tec P3AT on a lanyard around my neck once in awhile. I don't switch out every week but 2-3 times a year probably.
Glenn E. Meyer
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I would humbly suggest:
1. A SS 357 revolver should be accurate. Most are. Some shooteres aren't.
2. Trigger - rip shirts - what? I agree.
3. Number of rounds - It's Black Swan time again.
The most likely incident is the dread single mugger who is shooed away by you waving your gun.
However, the Black Swan is a rare incident that has major consequences. While low in probablility - you could land in a Columbine and Mumbai. My work environment (where I can't carry anyway
) would be a rampage site.
Thus, don't blithely ignore the number of rounds. Two times where I was faced with bad times, it was a car full of folks. Snubbies are low in rounds.
My point - I do carry a snubby sometimes because I rationally decided to play the odds and it works with my outfit. But I don't poo-poo the intense incident risk and try to carry more when I can.
1. A SS 357 revolver should be accurate. Most are. Some shooteres aren't.
2. Trigger - rip shirts - what? I agree.
3. Number of rounds - It's Black Swan time again.
The most likely incident is the dread single mugger who is shooed away by you waving your gun.
However, the Black Swan is a rare incident that has major consequences. While low in probablility - you could land in a Columbine and Mumbai. My work environment (where I can't carry anyway
) would be a rampage site.Thus, don't blithely ignore the number of rounds. Two times where I was faced with bad times, it was a car full of folks. Snubbies are low in rounds.
My point - I do carry a snubby sometimes because I rationally decided to play the odds and it works with my outfit. But I don't poo-poo the intense incident risk and try to carry more when I can.
I have several guns I carry depending on weather and dress. I recently put up my carry 1911 .45s for the season. They are my preferred carry in the winter. In the summer, I'll carry .380s quite a bit. I carry my SW 3913 (9mm) and SW J-frames pretty much year round.
I've tried carrying larger revolvers but found the 1911s to have more capacity and are easier to conceal for similar weight guns. Every once in a while, though, I'll stick my Model 19 in a holster under a coat just for the heck of it.
I've tried carrying larger revolvers but found the 1911s to have more capacity and are easier to conceal for similar weight guns. Every once in a while, though, I'll stick my Model 19 in a holster under a coat just for the heck of it.
christcorp
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AK103K; first, it is nice being psychic. It comes in handy. But if you go back and read the rest of my post instead of pulling out only the part that ruffled your feathers, you will see that my emphasis was NOT on how many rounds the weapon carries. I said if the 9mm weapon that holds 15 rounds is the one that fits you right and is the perfect weapon for you, then that is what you should get. My emphasis was, is, and ALWAYS WILL be; to NOT choose a weapon because of how many rounds the magazine/cylinder holds. If you do, then you are putting yourself at a disadvantage. There could be a perfect gun out there for you and you are going to overlook it because somebody told you that it didn't hold enough rounds.
My sister in-law wanted to buy a gun for self defense. By Brother (Her husband) kept telling her she should get something like a glock 22 40sw because of the 15 rounds it held. He EMPHASIZED the 15 rounds. Well, having access to just about any gun I want to shoot, I made a deal. I told him to let her get the gun she shot the best. He agreed. Mind you, she's like 4' 9". They came out this summer and I brought about 10 handguns out for her to try. I didn't have a glock, but I had some other 40sw and 9mm (Not mine) that had high cap magazines. She HATED the 40sw. It kicked too much. The 9mm was OK, but she felt like it was too big. At 8 yards (25 feet) she was pretty accurate. I gave her a walther 380acp. Straight ahead, while moving side to side, turning around and quick fire; I don't think she missed the paper plate targets once. She wasn't quick draw mcgraw, but she held her own. First thing out of her mouth was; "Can I buy this from you"? LOL... Point is; get the right gun for you. Make how many rounds it holds the LAST THING on your list. Any higher than that, and it's the wrong priority.
My sister in-law wanted to buy a gun for self defense. By Brother (Her husband) kept telling her she should get something like a glock 22 40sw because of the 15 rounds it held. He EMPHASIZED the 15 rounds. Well, having access to just about any gun I want to shoot, I made a deal. I told him to let her get the gun she shot the best. He agreed. Mind you, she's like 4' 9". They came out this summer and I brought about 10 handguns out for her to try. I didn't have a glock, but I had some other 40sw and 9mm (Not mine) that had high cap magazines. She HATED the 40sw. It kicked too much. The 9mm was OK, but she felt like it was too big. At 8 yards (25 feet) she was pretty accurate. I gave her a walther 380acp. Straight ahead, while moving side to side, turning around and quick fire; I don't think she missed the paper plate targets once. She wasn't quick draw mcgraw, but she held her own. First thing out of her mouth was; "Can I buy this from you"? LOL... Point is; get the right gun for you. Make how many rounds it holds the LAST THING on your list. Any higher than that, and it's the wrong priority.
armsmaster270
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All my carry guns have been full size 1911, S&W Mod 19 4", 586 4&6". Sig 220 .45 and Sig226 in 40 & 357Sig.
jim n iowa
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Where we live it's mostly a vehicle carry thing. How ever out of our comfort zone I Slip a 44 sp 2" in my back pocket, wife carries a 32 mag 2". We both shoot a lot, now and its a great project when we reload.
Jim
Jim
Just got my permit 2 days ago and am carrying a Glock29 IWB Crossbreed supertuck holster. Feels pretty good and covers well in shorts an t-shirt although it is a little heavy. I do not have a good belt. What do you guys recommend for width and thickness and where to get a good one without spending to much.
christcorp
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If I could find a way to wear summer clothes and carry a 45acp (P220 in my case); then I would carry it all the time. Not because I don't trust my 32acp; it's a great gun. Just that I feel totally complete holding the P220. For me, it's the perfect gun. But between warm weather clothing, tuxedo/suits, etc... it's pretty much my colder weather gun. When I can have a coat/jacket on. I really dislike shoulder holsters and anything with a harness. I prefer IWB/Small of my back. Sometimes off center slightly as in 7o'clock position. (I'm lefty). So for half the year, it's the P220. The other half of the year, it's the Walther or FEG 32auto.
I tried a smaller 45acp, but I just can't seem to feel good with it. 45acp just shouldn't be shot out of a small gun. There's just something not natural about it. Plus it's very uncomfortable to shoot. (Using 165 grain bullets defeats the purpose of a 45acp - it's 230 grain or nothing). Same with shooting a 357mag snub nose S&W 340. Yes, it can shoot 38spl +p, but then just get a smaller caliber gun. That's why I have a 32acp for my small gun. It will do everything for Self Defense that my 45acp will do. When you're in carrying mode and are using it for self defense, the bad guy isn't in Pre-meditated mode. Any resistance of significance, such as a gun, and they are not planned for that. If they even thought you might have a gun, they wouldn't even try messing with you. They'll find easier pickins. But I do like the feel of the Sig P220 full size. Just have to figure out the perfect way to carry it.
I tried a smaller 45acp, but I just can't seem to feel good with it. 45acp just shouldn't be shot out of a small gun. There's just something not natural about it. Plus it's very uncomfortable to shoot. (Using 165 grain bullets defeats the purpose of a 45acp - it's 230 grain or nothing). Same with shooting a 357mag snub nose S&W 340. Yes, it can shoot 38spl +p, but then just get a smaller caliber gun. That's why I have a 32acp for my small gun. It will do everything for Self Defense that my 45acp will do. When you're in carrying mode and are using it for self defense, the bad guy isn't in Pre-meditated mode. Any resistance of significance, such as a gun, and they are not planned for that. If they even thought you might have a gun, they wouldn't even try messing with you. They'll find easier pickins. But I do like the feel of the Sig P220 full size. Just have to figure out the perfect way to carry it.