Have you recently purchase a weapon in case the laws change overnight?

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Rome

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I live in Connecticut on the Mass border. Regardless who you blame for allowing the AG to effectively shut down gun sales in that state literally over night, it did, in fact, happen. Guns that did not qualify under the State's strict "consumer" guidelines were pulled off the shelves. And, there was no "grandfathering" as I heard last night. A number of enthusiests had guns on order through their local seller. When they arrived after the law change, they were simply returned to the manufacturer or locked away. The buyers had no way of getting them, even if they were paid for! This all being said, I'm wonder if this has moved any of you to go out and purchase that one more pistol or rifle in case this happens to your state, too. I know I did. Our AG in CT is drooling to do the same as our sister state to the North given half a chance. So, I'm out trolling for yet one more pistol and maybe one more rifle AND the ammo to go with them. In Mass there are two major law suits being filed against the recent laws, but it may take years to resolve. In the meantime, you're forced to purchase an extremely limited list of hand guns. Think about how that would impact your situation. Maybe it's time we all review whats happening in our respective states and taking the appropriate action!
Rome

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I live in Mass and I feel like a prisoner. I can't even have guns shipped to my dealer unless they are "safety compliant." I've only had my ltc for three months and have only bought two pistols. I really wanted a kimber custom. Now the only legal way for me to buy one is either used (where?) or move to another state. I can't tell you the sinking feeling i get when I go to a shop and see glass cases full of only revolvers with barrels over 3 inches.
If I lived in any other state in New England I'd take out a loan and buy as many sweet semi-autos as possible. This re-G*D Damn Diculous.
have a Day
Jeepster

If there is a smily face for PUKE I'd put it here!!!!
 
After Mass, Maryland, and Gore/Klinton I decided to accelerate my purchases. I went out and bought a Blackhawk, Kahr MK9 and a 1991a1. I didn't want a cowboy or 1911 style gun with an onboard computer and figured some dolt might outlaw the Kahr as too small.

Its not paranoia if everybody IS out to get you.
 
Yup, I've definitely accelerated purchases. When the AG announced enforcement of the regs, I did some panic buying and picked up a couple pistols. Fortunately, I'd purchased several more earlier this year. Two of those were special orders, so I wouldn't have been able to get them on short notice. And there are still more that I'd like to get, but can't now because of the MA regulations.

Folks, all this is coming soon to a theater near you. Buy it now, while you still can.

Jared
 
Rent a bedroom in southern Vermont. Get a Vermont driver's license (DON'T trade your MA one for it - apply for it the long way). Exercise your rights as a resident of Vermont.

Illegal? No more so than violating the 2nd.

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I'm a Kalifornia college student, and I'm really starting to sweat over this crap. If you guys could see the rampant socialist ignorance at this school. I've only had the funds to purchase an AR receiver. I'm planning on buying a few more, along with a reloading machine and powder. I want to build my AR, but I feel like we're running out of time. So it'll be receivers, receivers, receivers for me. Hope they dont outlaw gun PARTS.

The problem is trying to figure out what they'll hit next.



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Since the 3 April AG gun-grab here in the PRM, I have been to several gun shops to buy ammo. Each time it has looked like Saturday at Filene's Basement. They are selling everything with a trigger that was made before 1998. They cannot get enough used hand guns. The shop owners I spoke with said that hand gun business has increased by nearly 500% since Mr. Reilly's exercise in brain-dead, feel-food, utterly useless Liberalism (and remember, that's a _total_ 500% increase accounted for in just used hand guns). I did my own figuring. Based upon the several shops I've been to, multiplied by the number of stores in the PRM, I get between 300,000 and 600,000 more hand guns will have been sold in MA because of this ruling than would have been the case.

Here's another figure. Conservative estimates are of 230,000,000 private guns in the country. There are 83,000,000 licensed gun owners, and -- believe it or not -- over 1,300,000 in the PRM, or 1.6% of the total. Using a one-for-one average, that accounts for approximately 3,680,000 guns in Massachusetts. Using the statistic of 1 hand gun for every 3 long guns, that's 920,000 hand guns in the PRM before the ban went into effect. Some new hand guns are still saleable, so add a conservative 5 a week sold per dealer on average, or 4,500 a week state wide. Since used hand guns stay in circulation nearly forever, we can safely estimate that, despite Mr. Reilly's lawlessness, there will be over one million hand guns in circulation in the PRM by mid-September.

The key point is this. Before Lord High Sheriff Reilly's attempt to subvert the Constitution, most dealers had an inventory of used handguns averaging in the hundreds. No more. They are all being snapped-up now by people pissed-off at Mr. Reilly and determined to make sure they get one. Or two. Or six (no exaggeration; I've met several). And these are the "evil, unsafe" hand guns -- you know -- the ones that leap spontaneously from locked cabinets and shoot sleeping babies. So, whereas, before the AG'public display stupidity, perhaps half of the state's hand gun inventory was safely locked-up inside a gun shop, these same guns are now "on the street."

I propose sending a letter to Mr. Reilly thanking him for so dramatically increasing the number of firearms in the hands of the people.

And now today's suit filed by NSSA, the police, and the gun makers against, why, Mr. Reilly and his friends!
 
I have been buying in the spirit of "now or never" for years. I have calmed down recently but only to the extent of getting a pellet gun and more .22s for teaching newbies.

Make sure you have ammo, cleaning kits, replacement parts, magazines, holsters and that your guns are sighted in. Access to training/facilities may decline as suddenly.
 
Hmm... Is there a money making oppertunity for me?

I've got a handful of Glocks from before 1998. I can sell to any 01 FFL in the US. I sell them to a Mass. FFL, who would then have inventory. (For a CONSIDERABLE mark up) I then take the money, replace the glocks with new ones, and pocket the difference....

Just a thought.....


Eirc
 
I am really angry that what is a serious hobby as well as a constitutional right has been severely limited by the AG. I always have a wishlist which now has become a never to have list because shops can't sell these guns anymore and in both shops I frequent they said they will not transfer from out of state to me even if the gun is pre-Jan 98. As far as establishing residence in another state, I just can't afford that. In recent years it has gotten so expensive to own and use guns that it's almost become an exclusive activity for the rich. Renting an apartment across the state line and getting a driver's license puts the ante up out of reach for me. I have to live with what I already own. I will miss out on getting Glock 20 and 27, USP40FS, and probably a the Steyr M40. Even if I already owned these there are always new models such as the Beretta 9000 that would pique my interest. I think we should take the photo of the INS agent abducting Elian and attach the following caption to it:
"Do you want the the government to be the only ones to have guns? That's what Germany was like in 1939."

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I knew that I'd buy a gun "eventually," but I was thinking more along the lines of when I get married, a house, some kids, etc. It has always seemed like one of the responsible things that a man does... protect his family.

I bought one last year, and now I have 2 more purchases planned. I NEVER thought that I'd buy more than a handgun, and now I'm thinking of a rifle and shotgun. I never thought that our countrymen would try to do this to us.

On the "up side," I am engaged, so I guess I didn't buy the handgun as prematurely as I thought.
 
What is truly amazing is the "law of unintended concequences" as "Woodit" so eloquently pointed out. The AG in Massachusetts really did push many people on the fence to "go out and get theirs" before they can't get them, ever. I, too, have been at some of the local shops and he is right; they resemble the local milk store selling lottery tickets on the night of the
"big one". Certainly, the AG didn't have this type of result in mind when he inked that new edict. He can, then, be held completely responsible for the "fire sale" that is now occuring. There is one really good reason for this, too. It is due to the fact that the "law" he has passed is so full of holes that it failed to do precisely what it was intended to do: get "cheap" and "dangerous" guns off the street. Because he had to circumvent so many other laws to obtain the "power" to apply consumer protection laws to weapons, he inadvertently pushed many non-gun owners to become owners. Wow! And ya know, the worst of this is that he nor any of his ilk would ever admit that this was happening. Nope, they'll all sleep better tonight knowing that they've single-handedly skirted the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. That's something they will always be proud of, too.

In closing let me say that tonight on the news our Connecticut AG was touting the "success" of the contract signed by S&W and the states! He is so out of it that he refuses to acknowldege the fact that there are huge tears in that contract, now, and it probably won't be worth the paper its written on in a few more months. Oh well, it's that "feel good" legislation once again. Someday, I hope someone gets their head together and stops all of this nonsence.
In the meantime, I'm finding ways to skim a few extra bucks each and every month to plow into this great hobby.
Rome
 
The Mass. law only allows the sale of revolvers? Aren't they those funny old-
fashioned things with NO safety devices
on them? Sounds like your AG is a rocket
scientist as well as a dirtbag.
 
MAYBE ALL OF US MASS SHOOTERS SHOULD PITCH IN AND RENT A SMALL APARTMENT IN VERMONT. WE CAN SAY WE LIVE THERE MOST OF THE YEAR TO HUNT AND FISH. YOU KNOW , A GETAWAY PLACE. THEN GET OUR LISCENCES AND BUY TO OUR HEARTS CONTENT! SOMEBODY SMACK ME I THINK I'M DREAMING AGAIN :D

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"A true craftsman takes pride in his work"
 
Always had a couple of guns around. 1 or 2 for fun, and 1 for just in case. Since November the number has increased considerably. There's no tellin' where this anti-gun craze is going to wind up, but I'll not be caught without. I'm also increasing ammo and such too. Hey, the worst that can happen is I'll just have to go shootin' more often and have more choices of what I shoot.


"Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not REALLY out to get you." ;)
 
Until last year I owned 2 handguns. I now own 7 and a rifle. My state has a one handgun a month limit, which really works out to about 9 a year if you time your purchases precisely. However, one of the gun store owners told me that if you make a purchase on the 30 day mark you get 'flagged' by the state. I would like to trade 2 of my handguns for different models, but I will never sell a handgun again. Next purchase will probably be an AR15, not that I have a real need for one, but I can see them getting banned or restricted at some point. They sure look cool though!

Havn't been to Vermont in years. It may be time to visit.
 
Just bought a Taurus .357 2" Barrel in SS and a Beretta 92.

Just in case.

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Thane (NRA GOA JPFO SAF CAN)
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"As nightfall does not come at once, neither does oppression.
In both instances there is a twilight when everything remains
seemingly unchanged. And it is in such twilight that we all
must be most aware of change in the air - however slight -
lest we become unwitting victims of the darkness."
--Supreme Court Justice William O. Douglas
 
I buy as many guns as I can, as often as I can (except for S&W), and I urge my friends and Family to do the same. I may never even shoot some of the guns that I am purchasing, but at least I have them before the government bans them all.
 
I seriously suggest to people that they buy firearms for their children, for their use as adults (since they will be unlikely to be free to purchase what you can right now). Rifles, shotguns, pistols, revolvers, whatever. We may even get to the point where you have an attorney draw up documents indicating you have gifted those firearms to your kids, in trust, for their direct ownership when they reach age 18. The same concept applies to magazines for semiautos.

At least at the present time, most of these fascist laws are written in a way that 'grandfathers' existing ownership. Eventually that will pass as well, but we'll cross that bridge when we come to it.

So, in answer to your question ... yes. Since the cities started suing the gun manufacturers.

Besides isn't that the law ... something about 'one gun per month'? ;)

Regards from AZ
 
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