Have the Brits become total wimps?

Preserve Freedom--The British stormed out of their tiny island,and conquered the World.Every highway in Christendom and elsewhere was trodden by the Redcoat Soldiers.They fought everyone and beat them all.But all empires have their day.Even now I can tell you that the British Soldier is no mug--even if his government is.
 
Posted by Mike Davies...

"The same stunt is being attempted here in the Great White North, but we're made of sterner stuff...eh?"

Oh yeah, sure, you're made of "sterner" stuff...

Cut to hidden camera footage of Mike trying to get his Canadian firearms permits...

Mike -- "Please oh PLEASE Mr. Sub Secretary Sergeant to the Middle Level Manager of the High Ranking Interior Department of the Middle Range Ministry of the Department for Momentary Permits for Possession of Firearms! Your office is less an 2 miles from my home, but in the last week I've put nearly 35,000 miles on my car trying to get every last bit of paper work shuttled to you! Please oh Please can't I have my permit that allows me to be within breathing range of the site where the gun I'm purchasing was stored 6 months ago?"

Bureaucrat -- "WHAT? You've already decided to PURCHASE a gun! You'll need 4 more permits to allow you to even THINK about purchasing a gun! These permits are only to allow you to consider thinking about thinking about purchasing an entrance permit to the town where a NON-SPECIFIC firearm MAY have once been located!"

Mike -- (Breaking into loud lamentations...)

Bureaucrat -- "STOP THAT! STOP THAT I SAY! YOU DON'T HAVE A PERMIT TO LAMENT THE DENIAL OF A PERMIT TO CONSIDER THINKING ABOUT THINKG ABOUT PURCAHSING AN ENTRANCE PERMIT TO THE TOWN WHERE A NON-SPECIFIC FIREARM MAY HAVE ONCE BEEN LOCATED! GUARDS! GUARDS!"

Oh yeah, Mikey my boy, you're made of "sterner" stuff.... :D

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Beware the man with the S&W .357 Mag.
Chances are he knows how to use it.
 
Mike: HA!! Says you...I'll have you know that I phoned the Canadian Firearms Centre (YES...centRE, the PROPER spelling..) and spoke to Mellanie...I asked her...no...I DEMANDED to know where the plastic registration card was for my Browning Hi-Power that I purchased on August 2nd was...(I can't shoot it, you see, until I have the plastic registration card..that's the LAW..something we respect here in Canada, being a CIVILIZED nation..). I do have the TAN (Transfer Authorization Number), my ATT (Authorization To Transport) and my FAC (Firearms Acquisition Certificate), however.
She said go away...we are backed up and your card WILL be issued in due course.
I said thank you and went away...again...
HOWEVER! I shall phone again on Monday.
In the meantime, you should SEE the shine on my Hi-Power; I took your advice and put car wax on it.....and I'm currently knitting a nice holster for it...
Tell me about 1776 again....
 
Mike,

Oh, I'm CERTAIN that your lamentations at said bureaucrat's office were NOTHING like the ones heard from you when Margaret found out that you had purchased your first firearm, let alone your second!

Does she know the extent of your collection?

I see red hot pokers in your future... :)

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Beware the man with the S&W .357 Mag.
Chances are he knows how to use it.
 
Mike Davies;

I would never dream of criticizing the bravery of young soldiers. Especially those in a volunteer army. And although there are undeniable problems with the militaries of both the Brits and us Yanks these, the enlisted men on the front line, aren't the cause; they don't have the authority to inaugurate bogus social programs within the army, reduce the amount and quality of their own training, and enact inane and borderline suicidal SOP's to avoid hurting the feelings of the well-armed psychopaths they're sent to keep an eye on with their all-but-ceremonially-sealed arms unmenacingly undisplayed. To find the cause of the problem we must find the people, both civilian and military, who do have that authority, and request they start using it more wisely. As far as the Canadian armed forces go, an expatriate Canadian friend of mine and I were discussing this and worried that no one could effect an accurate judgement of their readiness anymore, since due to her recent run for Miss International Congeniality, Canada's boys have been dispersed too widely about the globe to get any two to answer to the same roll call (this is to insure that every schoolyard fistfight has blue helmeted observers there to prove Canada Cares.) Alas, we seem mired on the same path down here.

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"..but never ever Fear. Fear is for the enemy. Fear and Bullets."
10mm: It's not the size of the Dawg in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog!

[This message has been edited by Tamara (edited August 28, 2000).]
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ArmySon:
YES[/quote]

What he said.



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God, Guns and Guts made this country a great country!

oberkommando sez:
"We lost the first and third and now they are after the Second!(no pun intended)"
 
Tamara:
Your Canadian friend is wise indeed...Canada has virtually painted itself into a corner with this "Peace-Keeper" role. As I mentioned once before, we don't even use our own Canadian manufactured armoured cars, as they look "too aggressive for a peace-keeping role"....yikes.
I read a lot of statements by zealous patriots here about how "We" did this, and "We" did that...I hate to point out the obvious, but it was your glorious ancestors who performed all these great military feats...blustering about long-ago glories is what put the British nation where it is today. ;)
 
Mike:
Harumph! We Canadians/Brits don't let our wimmin folk decide for us what we can do, or can't do...or what we can have, or can't have.
(Unless she's Irish, of course...that changes EVERYTHING!)
I have 'fessed up to 4 so far...3 to go. C'MON!! I'm still walking funny after showing her the Enfield revolver...
Mike
 
David:
Even SAS patrols can be 'captured'...this actually happened when a patrol "accidentally" crossed into the Republic of Ireland from N. Ireland. This should underline that this type of situation can happen to the best..and the SAS *are* the best.
 
Maybe with local police, yes. If I as Swiss solider ventured into
France, I'd obey a LEO's orders. OTOH, in Sierra Leone, you have to be
wary of everything and anybody. If they're after you, you have to
'process' them.

Mainly the missing alertness got the guys. Missing alertness comes
from missing discipline and non-existant SOPs for such cases.
 
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