Has the rules of what scope is enough been changed?????

You should never point a loaded gun at anyone but anyone that carries a pistol in a shoulder rig is constantly sweeping people with a loaded gun. We must infer some logic that guns dont just go off and not feed the hysteria of the irrational fears.
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Great point. I was thinking exactly that before I got to your post.
 
For what it's worth. If you are deer hunting,Your 3 x 9 is more than good enough. If you are dog hunting,might just as well stay home. I hunted Deer for many years with a 3 x 9, never had a issue. Hung up the hunting thing about 5 years ago now. A man with a 3 x 9 shooting dogs at 500 yards or more is a man going home with no stories. Quality has come a long way in just the last 10 years. The story of spending twice as much on your scope as your rifle is long over. With all the options out there,why limit yourself to a 3 x 9. Get something much better, 6 x 24 for example. Still able to dial down to 6 for deer ,but yet able to crank to 24 for the long shots.
 
Tahunna, 1000 yard shots with 10x scopes happen all the time. Many times when mirage is running like crazy 1000 yard bench guns are shooting with their scopes dialed down to around 8 power. You could not shoot 1000 yards with a 10x scope that has cross hairs so big they cover the target and then some at 1000, but a lot of 1k shooting is done at 10x or less. Having said that, if conditions are right, I prefer to have low 30's to 48 power.
 
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You should never point a loaded gun at anyone but anyone that carries a pistol in a shoulder rig is constantlysweeping people with a loadedgun. We must infer some logicthatguns dont just go off and not feed the hysteria of the irrational fears.
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That's what I thought.

On a hunting trip when I was about 16 we had all met at camp for lunch. We were eating lunch when someone in our hunting party noticed some movement across the canyon. Sure enough it was another hunter with his scope on us. At first we tried to wave him off. All we could think to do after that didn't work was take cover and put our scopes on him. The hunter immediately ran toward the brush. I can tell you right now I didn't like having a gun pointed at me and having six scopes on him give him the message in a hurry. This was the first and only time I've had a human my scope.

As far as I'm concerned it was self defense and justified.

I always confirm my target and what is beyond my target before taking the safety of.

Boomer
 
I have a 5-25 Zeiss HD5 and for me it's the perfect range of magnification. 5 is low enough for close tracking shots and being able to turn it way up has helped with load development and no need for a spotting scope for 200 yard zeroing.
 
I originally bought a 6-24X variable scope for my .22 because I wanted to do benchrest rimfire target shooting.

Come the need to hunt rabbits at rimfire ranges, I VERY swiftly discovered this was WAY too much scope, almost unusable except at the low end, and it was down to the shop for something less... 2-7X, I think.

The higher-mag scope went onto my long range centrefire rifle where it was to my mind barely enough scope for 600yd work, and both more aperture and more magnification would have been nice; the lower-mag scope went on the bunny buster and stayed there, and usually ended up wound down to the 3-4X mark.

Shot a .303 after three years away from them today, and my first ten handloads suggest exciting possibilities for the local big game hunting season next year (run, Bullwinkle, run!). But I want to be sure of this, and I feel a lower-end scope (Magnification wise) might help me to keep my shots to ranges that are within my competence.
 
Try the Nikon P22 2x7. I have one on my Savage BSEV. its all you ever want for a 22 scope and it will reach out to 150 yards.
 
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every1 has proven 1 point, and it's the point i'd like to point out. as far as what scope is better, honestly it comes down to shooter preference. shoot with a scope you are comfortable with, that rule of thumb will never change. i prefer a 3-9x40, that is my preference because it is more than enough for any shot i will ever try. i like 40mm tubes simply because it gives a little more than just straight ahead, that way i can scan a little to make sure no1 is in my field of fire. i don't like being scoped, but when you're in the field it occasionally happens. we can at least give each other the curtisy of a little more so we don't make any regrettable mistakes.
 
I can use 3x magnification @ 10 feet. So I consider that my minimum magnification, unless I needed optics for SD purposes, then 1.5x or 2x might be better. I think 3x9 or 3x12 or 3x15 is all anyone should really need for hunting, even at longer ranges.
 
Like it or not, using a scope mounted on a gun to glass the side of a hill has been done since the invention of the scope. Last thing, and I mean, last thing you need is to be looking at the government for more laws regulating what you can do with a firearm. If the gun is unloaded, then its as safe as using binoculars
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..... and drinking and driving has been done since the invention of the automobile. Both are still stupid and irresponsible behaviors.


I'm supposed to trust that your rifle is unloaded when you are using it to scope me out?


No.

Rule #1: Allways treat all guns as if they were loaded.

Fail.

Rule#2: Never point guns at things you do not intend to destroy.

Double Fail.

Don't Do It.

It is not polite, and this is an Armed Society.
 
to me magnification is second really

I use different scopes for different situations, even if scopes are advertised as wellrounded they seldom are IMO (I tried that with a 2,5-12 scope and it sucked

for my bolt I have a 1-4 and a 4,5-14, so is there something in that 0,5 range I am missing? don't think so

I think people where/are fooled by big numbers and think that high magnification is the end all. ligth transfusion and clarity are more important. now if they made a 1-4 with the same light transfusion as my 4-14 I would probably never use the big one

For my semi I only have a reddot and haven't felt the use for a scope yet
 
I still like my 3-9x40 variable scopes for the majority of my hunting needs. The majority of shots I make are 300 yards and under. I like Leupold scopes however I own a couple of Mueller 4.5-14x40 AO scopes that are mounted on a 17HMR and a 17WSM. They perform very well with the rimfires out to their maximum ranges.
 
I wish more companies made a 3-9x40 with target turrets, turrets are useful no matter what magnification you like.
 
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I wish more companies made a 3-9x40 with target turrets, turrets are useful no matter what magnification you like.
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+1 to that. I have target turrets on my scope that I run on the .204, you can really reach out with that gun. Takes the guess work out of it.
 
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