Has the patent run out??

This makes me wonder something. When the hammer is at half cock does it prevent the safety from being accidentally engaged?
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No. The cross-bolt safety is simply a hammer block safety. At half-cock, the safety is free to move.
The only time hammer position has any influence upon the safety is when the hammer is fully down and the safety is off. Then, the safety cannot be re-engaged without pulling the hammer to half- or full-cock.
 
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They have an evanix revolving PCP rifle.
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Kind of cool, guess I could have been a little more clear. I was thinking a DA/SA type trigger action but in a traditional lever action. This way no need for a safety or manually cocking the hammer if you so choose, just pull the trigger similar to a revolver. Just a silly notion.
 
If one follows the rules, a safety lever is a liability.
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I disagree. If one follows "the rules" (meaning proper operation of the mechanism) a safety lever is never a liability, and while it might be if you're not following the rules, it also might be the thing that saves your butt from an AD, even if you aren't following "the rules".

Now, if you are speaking of the rules of a specific game, things might be different, but without detailed explanation, I don't see how...

The old boy that bought it usually was too busy talking witch interfered with his hearing.
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ok, got it. He was properly instructed, but didn't pay attention.

When I was working in the Small arms shops in the Army, we called that "insufficent operator headspace".

An example of this, was a tread head who brought the coax MG from his tank, to my shop truck at the range, and said "it don't work".

I checked the gun, found nothing obviously wrong, and told him it was ok, go play... 3/4 of an hour later, he was back, with the gun and "it still don't work!"

I detail stripped it, inspected every piece there was NOTHING wrong with it, mechanically, I told him that, and sent him off again.

He was back again shortly after, with the same complaint (and no additional info, either). Frustrated, I geared up, gave him the gun and said "SHOW ME!"

Went to his tank (which was on the firing line) got in, he mounted the gun, loaded it INCORRECTLY, and when he hit the trigger it didn't fire, just jammed.

I moved him aside, cleared the gun, snapped off the damaged rounds from the end of the belt, loaded the gun correctly, and laid on the trigger firing the entire belt in one loong burst. Told him, "works fine for me!" and went back to my spades game in the truck. :D

I KNOW he had been trained how to do it correctly, but he wasn't doing it, so clearly he didn't listen to his instructions.

You have to be at least as smart as the gun, and its better if you are a little bit smarter. :rolleyes::D
 
Patents generally last 20 years. The 336 is LONG out of patent protection (like, over 100 years out of protection). Anybody can make direct copies of it. They just can't call it a 336 or a Marlin as that would violate trademarks (which have no expiration).
 
If I remember correctly, the 336 is simply the last in a series of updates and improvements on the Marlin Model 1893.

The 1893 was made from then until 1935 or so, when the improved Model of 1936 was introduced. That was made for a single year and some additional improvements were made and it was reintroduced as the Marlin Model 36.

The Model 36 was made until 1941 or so, when production was shut down for World War II. Although it was apparently cataloged until 1948, when the 336 was introduced, I can't find any indication that any were actually manufactured after 1941. It seems that any that were sold were assembled mostly from parts that were made prior to the halt for war production.

I've always liked the 336. It fits me better than the Winchester 94 and has a lot less perceived recoil. The 94 has always kicked the snot out of me.

But, I REALLY like the lines of the Model 36 a LOT better. Somehow it's more graceful. I think it's the stock contouring.

And an original Model 1893 rifle with a full magazine and a straight stock?

OMG BE STILL MY BEATING HEART!
 
I have a 24” barrel, short magazine tube 36 that is serial numbered according to information I have found a 1947 model. It is in very good condition but the barrel is stamped ADL which would indicate a deluxe checkered stock and forearm. Mine has a wide/full forearm and plain walnut curved grip stock. Inside the stock it has part of the serial number that matches the one that is hand stamped under the lever so it does appear to be all original. I have heard of 36 barrels being installed on early 336 receivers although I have never seen this. Also, the tang and receiver are drilled and taped for sights.
 
The Model 36 was made until 1941 or so, when production was shut down for World War II. Although it was apparently cataloged until 1948, when the 336 was introduced, I can't find any indication that any were actually manufactured after 1941. It seems that any that were sold were assembled mostly from parts that were made prior to the halt for war production.
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It quite likely that no model 36s were "made" after 1941. What I think likely is any of that model sold after the war started were "stock on hand" as assembled rifles that just hadn't been shipped before the war essentially shut down civilian production and sales. After the war, they might have had enough still on hand to retain the model as a cataloged item, without restarting actual full production.

I'm thinking demand wasn't all that high for a while after the war, 46-47 were "recovery" years, where the returning GIs were mostly working on getting their lives back up and running, and I think for a great many, getting a new deer rifle wasn't at the very top of their priority lists. ;)

It wouldn't have been on mine...:rolleyes:
 
They aren’t that plentiful on GB, which would make sense given the time frame you bring up.
Just looked, 1 on GB, and as usual, priced fairly reasonably.
Maybe because they can be a bit of Frankenstein?
I know mine was less than $200 in the early 90’s and is much nicer than most.
 
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"After the war, they might have had enough still on hand to retain the model as a cataloged item, without restarting actual full production."

Yeah, that's exactly what I said. Read my reply again, Grandpa! :D

"I'm thinking demand wasn't all that high for a while after the war, 46-47 were "recovery" years, where the returning GIs were mostly working on getting their lives back up and running, and I think for a great many, getting a new deer rifle wasn't at the very top of their priority lists."

You'd be wrong about that.

Consumer demand after the end of the war was absolutely MASSIVE, and in virtually every product category, including firearms.

The Depression had crushed demand because people couldn't afford new products. Then the War came, unemployment went to virtually nil, and people had money for the first time in a decade, but now they didn't have anything to spend it on.

That pent up demand EXPLODED after the war, and companies were doing anything they could to A) meet demand and B) bring new products to market.

Having money on hand but having a very limited supply of goods on which to spend that money is a recipe for massive jumps in consumer prices.

Know how the government addressed that?

War Bonds and Patriotism.

Support your country, support the war effort, support the boys (and help keep consumer prices in control) by channeling all of your free money into war bonds!

Just like gasoline rationing wasn't really about saving gasoline (it was to a lesser degree). It was mostly about keeping people from driving and thus wearing out their tires. If you don't have to replace your tires, you don't have to go looking for new rubber on the black market.
 
It quite likely that no model 36s were "made" after 1941. What I think likely is any of that model sold after the war started were "stock on hand" as assembled rifles that just hadn't been shipped before the war essentially shut down civilian production and sales. After the war, they might have had enough still on hand to retain the model as a cataloged item, without restarting actual full production.
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Hard to say.
My Model 36 has a serial number that indicates 1947 production.
Were they serialized after being in storage? Were they actually produced in '47?
I don't know. Nor do I know who might have the information.
All I know for sure is that my Model 36 has a serial number that dates to 1947.
 
It is hard to say, unless you have the factory records (which may, or may not still exist). It is entire possible production resumed after the war, does your date source have the serial number range for each year??

did they produce a few dozen, a few hundred or a few thousand in 47??

I have no idea what they actually did, but it seems to me that if I were going to introduce an improved variant, I'd end production of the gun being dropped so I could "repurpose" as much of the machinery and tooling for the new model.

Sometimes gun makers do that, and sometimes they produce both models for a while, before finally ending production of the older version.
 
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