Has Anyone Encountered Armed B.G.?

Of all the times that I haved deployed my service weapon, only one comes to mind where I knew the BG was armed. I investigated a shooting into a dwelling, and by chance the suspect drove back to where his mother lived, down the block from the shooting. My cover officer and I chased him into the house, and we caught him shortly thereafter. I was about six feet away, with him covered and all he could say was what a nice guy he was and he cried for his mother outside. We got him down, and retrieved two pistols from him, a .45 out of his waist and a .22 out of his sock. He did not have a chance to deploy his weapons, and I think the whole episode only took a minute or two, if that. The aftermath, as you asked Gary H, he got a $50,000 bond for four felonies, three misdemeanors and an infraction, I got called all sorts of nasty names from him (some were names I had not been called before, points for originality), and went home and enjoyed the next day off.
 
Yes, read the back issues of AMERICAN HANDGUNNER and the Ayoob Files for the story.

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"If there be treachery, let there be jihad."
Ne Conjuge Nobiscum
 
yeah, nothing quite as extreme as the rest of these but i have been confronted by armed goblins twice in the past 6 months.
both time in the same place, wal-mart parking lot, next to the truck, in the handicapped spaces. in the best lit area of the lot.
firt time was in late may, went out to the truck to get something i had left out there, as i was opening up the door this guy, about 3 years older than me, 17 or so, walks up behind me with a 2x4 in his hand, i can see him in the side mirror.
he said soemthing like "gimmie your keys or i will whack the crap outta you mutha-f*****!"
at which point in time i slammed the door shut, turned and jumped about 2 feet back.
pulled my folder out of my pocket and flicked it open, turned it into reverse grip, and got into a low stance.
saw the 2x fly past my head, and the guy run towards me.
i stepped sideways and extended my foot, infront of his ankles.
and bam he went down. kicking him in the ribs was considered but i just backed up and figured of he trys it again screw him he must want to get cut. he hopped up and took off.
second tiem was in august same type thing except this guy was about 25, and about 6 foot 4. and he had a chain.
flicked out my knife and let him see it.
he dropped the chain and ran.
neither of them were fun, and scared me sh*tless.
dont want to do it again, but would if i had to.
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by guerilla1138:
flicked out my knife[/quote]

What kind of knife do you have? I have a 6" stilletto switchblade(stays at home) but I carry a 5" butterfly knife. I've never pulled it, mostly it comes out to show friends how to do it, then they cut their fingers, and I laugh at them :) (my fingers have been cut too, I too, was once a novice :))
If I ever was attacked I know it would come in handy. When I pull it out and open it, it looks like I pull it out of my pocket already open.


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IF you're not willing to die for your rights/beliefs, don't try to take mine.
 
G & B, RULE #1: stop taking knives to gunfights!

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Tonkin Gulf Yacht Club
68-70
true story, a Union Gen. once said "Don't worry about those Rebs. They couldn't hit an elephant at this dist..SPLAT.
 
If you have back issues of the AMERICAN HANDGUNNER look for the Nov/Dec 1989 issue.

Ayoob has mentioned parts of the events in some of his other articles since that time.

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"If there be treachery, let there be jihad."
Ne Conjuge Nobiscum
 
Rousted a sleeping drunk while on patrol on OKC. Drunk went sleep/defensive with a large folder. Found 3 guns in his face.

Privately, had a carjacker try to get into my car. Opened my passenger door (convertible, so it wasn't really locked/lockable) while I was stopped on a hill. No cars behind me so I stepped on the clutch. While rolling backward/dragging his feet under the door I put my .45 in his face. He decided to let go of the car door, and I drove away. End of story.

Another incident I had a guy try to force me off the road, then came up to my car with a tire ion at the next light. When he saw the .45 sitting demurely on my lap he slunk back to his truck and went away. (PD got him later as I had taken his lisc.#)

Never had to fire a shot as a civillian.

MrM.

>Display is 99% of Firearm Self Defense... bullets are for the other 1%...2 down 98 to go.<
 
Had a BG come up to drivers side window at drive up ATM. Pulls his knife and wants the cash I just withdrawn. I pulled stainless Gov't Model and stick it in his face. Never saw a guy run so fast in my life!
 
With all due respect to Ayoob, he has a lot of book knowledge, and I do read his work for entertainment and perspective, but he has basically no real world experience on the matters that he talks about.

Anyway, one time I was pumping gas into my truck at a gas station in the middle of the city, in the middle of the day. In midst of pumping gas, a truck full of thugs rolled up and told me that I was "going to give them some money". There were a few in the cab and a couple in the truck bed. They stayed in their truck, wisely while they told me that I was going to give them money. I told them "No I am not" and they said "yes you will" as they piled out of the truck to kick my skull in. I reached in the cab, and grabbed my Glock 20 10mm and emphasized "NO, I AM NOT!". They jumped in their truck and took off hastily.
The clerk came running out of the store and told me that this was the third time today they had committed that same crime. The clerk watched it all happening, and (as he had twice before), he called the Police. The Police rolled up a few minutes later, and said they had come by twice before for this crime. Of course, my question was: why didn't they hang out and wait for them to come back (how can someone commit the same crime in the same place three times in a row and not get caught?), and also, obviously the police are useless to help you in these circumstances because even though this was the third time this day that this happened, it still took them several minutes to show up. I would have been dead or maimed by the time they got there, had I not been able to protect myself.

As Dangus said, most violent crimes are commited by people who have been drinking alcohol. I believe the number is %80 of violent crimes involve alcohol. But, outlawing alcohol would be as successful as outlawing drugs….it does not work. Personally, I have seen plenty of people who have smoked marijuana, and they were always far from violent…makes me wonder why alcohol is legal and pot is not.





[This message has been edited by DerGlockenpooper (edited October 27, 2000).]
 
Ayoob has used a gun for defense several times.Im his book "In The Gravest Extreme" he talks about numerous cases.I thought that he has been in his father's store when it got robbed.And was it him or his dad that shot a robber.
 
One of the cases where massad showed a gun in defense was when he was walking at night and a woman walked right in front of him,then a guy came out and pulled a butcher knife and Massad presented his 4 inch s&w38. and the guy left.
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BadMedicine:
What kind of knife do you have? I have a 6" stilletto switchblade(stays at home) but I carry a 5" butterfly knife. I've never pulled it, mostly it comes out to show friends how to do it, then they cut their fingers, and I laugh at them :) (my fingers have been cut too, I too, was once a novice :))
If I ever was attacked I know it would come in handy. When I pull it out and open it, it looks like I pull it out of my pocket already open.


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i carry am emerson commander now, damn fine knife, and mine was well worth the 140 i paid for it, that was from a friend, www.tripleaughtdesign.com has them for 165.
if your intereted in one email me and i will tell you what to look for to make sure u get a good one as they have some quality control problems. another plus is that it has a little feature called the wave the catches on the edge of your pocket when you pull it out and it opens the blade, so it really does come out open.

but at the time i was carrying an outdoor edge impulse tanto point folder, fully serrated. www.outdooredge.com
nice knife for the money. designed by darrel ralph, one of the better custom knife makers out there.


[This message has been edited by guerilla1138 (edited October 28, 2000).]
 
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