Handi rifles

I do not own one of these, but a friend got a used NEF Handi Rifle .243 one for his daughter, and I've had lots of experience shooting it, and it's been nothing but a headache. To start off, his daughter didn't want it in the first place and she doesn't like it at all either. He wanted to get her something like this since she was left handed. He figured that a single shot was the best option since he couldn't find a decently priced left handed bolt action. She said she'd rather just have a right handed bolt action.

All that aside, he got it and noticed that when you shot it it was kicking open and kicking the shell out towards your face. After checking it out some and looking online, there are reports of them doing this if you don't keep it completely dry of oil. Some reports still have it happen if it's dry, but it seems to happen a lot less. Once he cleaned it good, and then dried it off and kept it free from oil it didn't do this again, or so far hasn't. It's not been shot all that much.

He thought all was well until they ran a few rounds through it and a shell stuck in the barrel. He took it to a gunsmith to have it checked out this time. The gunsmith said the chamber wasn't cut deep enough from the factory and it was out of spec. So he cut the chamber deeper. He thought it was fixed, but we took it shooting a few weeks ago and on the first round it stuck again. We had to take a cleaning rod to knock it out. It did fire the next 20 or so fine, but it obviously still isn't fixed.

So I did a search online for this and it turned up a ton of people complaining that shells stick in theirs. There really doesn't seem to be a fix that I can find other that people saying they carry a cleaning rod to the stand with them so they can get the shell out if it does stick. Several people also said the new ones had a notch cut in the barrel so when the shell does stick you can pry it out. They recommended cutting one of these in the older ones that didn't have it so at least you can get the shell out without carrying a cleaning rod around. Several guys had tried polishing the chamber, several had sent it back to the manufacturer, and they all still had this problem. So it doesn't look like there is a fix for this on them.

Now I will say that my buddies shoots decently. There are lots of reports I found online while searching saying the accuracy was horrible too, but his does shoot fairly well. It shot right at 1" groups with reloads, and about 2" groups with Winchester Power Points.

The trigger on his isn't the best, but it certainly isn't the worst in the world. It seems like the trigger varies on each of them as some guys report having gotten great triggers, while others say theirs is horrible. His is a little heavy, but it's not bad and it breaks pretty evenly.

Overall, the quality just doesn't seem to be there on this gun. After searching trying to find solutions for the problems his had, it turns up a ton more reports of the same problems, and mostly saying that there is no fix, just things to help it not happen as often.

I personally think you'd be much better off to go with a bolt action. You can get a Stevens 200 that's a much better rifle for the same price. The NEF's sell for about $270 on clearance here at Walmart, but they normally are $300 with a cheap no name scope. This is the price the Stevens 200 is in. Or for $100 more you can get a Savage Model 10 243 with a Simmons scope, and a sling at Walmart. They are $387 here. This gun has the accu trigger and is a much nicer gun as well as a great trigger that's fully adjustable. Not only is the quality of the gun much nicer, but it's much more accurate. The one I've shot was shooting right at .5" groups with hand loads, and .8" groups with Winchester Power Points and Federal Power Shoks.

Another decent option is the Marlin XS-7 for right at $300. This is also another great option.

I just don't see a reason to mess with one of these pieces of junk when you can get so many other options that are better for a similar price.
 
Fusion I dont consider the handi-rifle to be junk. The problems you were describing I have never heard of and certainly never had with my handi-rifle. I paid almost as much for the scope on mine than I did the rifle. If you can find a cheaper set-up that shoots sub-moa go for it, but dont call the handi-rifle junk based on one problem and the fact you dont like them.
 
Fusion I dont consider the handi-rifle to be junk. The problems you were describing I have never heard of and certainly never had with my handi-rifle. I paid almost as much for the scope on mine than I did the rifle. If you can find a cheaper set-up that shoots sub-moa go for it, but dont call the handi-rifle junk based on one problem and the fact you dont like them.

There have been some with problems, the cool thing is most of the fixes are ususally just a little time and know how. I've had them in 30-30, 280, 44mag, and currently 204 and 7mm-08. All have been nicely accurate for their intended purposes except the 44mag. I found out after the fact that some of the early 44 barrels had problems because they were a little large and had really shallow rifling. The newer ones are supposedly much tighter and shoot better.

When I picked up the 30-30, the only one I bought new, the dealer actually had 4 of them. I picked the one that had a scary light trigger pull, so light I thought it might be on the unsafe side. I tried everything to make it go off unintentionally and never had a problem.

I picked up all the rest at pawn shops. I think $175 is the most I ever paid for one. If they are up around $300 now new, yeah there would be other options, but as long as I can get them for under $200 I'll keep looking at them. They are just too easy to tweek and get running right, if it's necessary at all.

The other cool thing is that their customer service is reportedly stellar if you do encounter and issue that can't be resolved in your own shop.
 
The problem with extraction is that the extractor is only powered by a spring, not a cam. There's no way to force extraction beyond spring power, except to use a cleaning rod. I'd prefer a cam that was more positive, since I don't like shells being kicked back at me.
 
Why aren't these guns more accurate?

For the .243 I had I believe it was due to a very light barrel that warped with heat from the very first shot. These posts indicate the heavier barreled models seem to be more accurate.
 
I had a .243 Ultra Varmint. It was a real dog and getting the company to fix it's issues was an excersize in futility. One of the few guns I've ever sold. I don't miss it.
 
My son's Handi-Rifle definitley shoots MOA, with his .270 win, and his .223 rem. heavy barrel. We're working up some loads for both barrels as we speak, results will follow, you can count on it. I shot deer and bobcats with this rifle. I would never call any of them junk, as we've had super results with this one!!:)
 
I own 3 Handi rifles.....357mag.....44mag.....and a 20ga. All have been excellent shooters and I would highly recommend them to anyone looking for a single shot rifle. All mine are very accurate and never a problem, clean it and shoot it and have lots of fun. Many people bash these rifles because of their price, or something they heard from someone else. They are an excellent value and everyone should own one, especially when young and learning to shoot. You will never forget your first Handi!
 
Yes .38's shoot well out of it. I was plinking a bowling pins at 110 yards with open sights and doing quite well. There is virtually no recoil with .38's
 
Many people bash these rifles because of their price, or something they heard from someone else.

Personally I seldom bash any firearms however after 50 plus years of shooting and buying I can only relate my experience with what I have owned and fired if you expect consistent accuracy out of a break open gun you will be disappointed. Most people in reviewing will always thumbs up there purchase, simply human nature.
 
The problem with extraction is that the extractor is only powered by a spring, not a cam. There's no way to force extraction beyond spring power, except to use a cleaning rod. I'd prefer a cam that was more positive, since I don't like shells being kicked back at me.

Im pretty sure the newer ones use a cam


I have one in 500s&w and its awesome to say the least. I will definately be a compliment to your revolver.

I'm still in loas development stage but so far with my MBC 400 gn hard cast/H-110 loads its shooting 3moa

and wit the Hornady FTX (which I plan on using on deer this fall) its about 2moa so far.

Definately a fun gun
 
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