It's not rising on its own; it's only rising because the rifle is sighted in at a certain distance and the barrel is aimed slightly upwards.SgtLumpy said:I thought the typical 308/30-06 rose for about the first 100 yards at least.
SgtLumpy
I thought the typical 308/30-06 rose for about the first 100 yards at least.
Theohazard:
It's not rising on its own; it's only rising because the rifle is sighted in at a certain distance and the barrel is aimed slightly upwards.
I always thought that was simply a knock against the heavies, such as the .45-70, from the flat shooter afficionados, such as 7mm mag owners. Comparing trajectories to those two, the .45-70 would look like a rainbow.In the same vein, another myth is that of the "rainbow trajectory" usually used in reference to older rifles in which the bullet is supposed to follow a very high arc. That may, in a sense, be true in comparison with more modern rounds, but it is mainly due to the way trajectory is shown in the various books and magazines. With space limitations in publications, where 1000 yards is squeezed into an 8" wide page, the arc seems very high.
I suppose...they could.If someone shoots a Luger close by you, you can prevent further shots by grabbing the toggle link while it is up and holding it in the open position.
mrray13 said:Bob's Luger post reminded me of something I think my g-pa (wwII vet) told me about the 1911....
If you find yourself faced against a 1911 and stick a finger in the barrel, it can't fire.
He said as soon as you stuck your finger in, the barrel would move back just enough not to fire.
Maybe?
That will work on most semi-autos; if you push on the slide or barrel on a locked-breech semi-auto you'll push it out of battery and it won't fire. But I'm not sure why anyone would put their finger in the barrel to do that, all you need to do is use your open palm against the muzzle to accomplish the same thing.mrray13 said:Bob's Luger post reminded me of something I think my g-pa (wwII vet) told me about the 1911....
If you find yourself faced against a 1911 and stick a finger in the barrel, it can't fire.
He said as soon as you stuck your finger in, the barrel would move back just enough not to fire.
Maybe?
Doubtful on a decent lockup. You'd have to be pushing your finger pretty hard. I have heard to push on the front with your entire palm to engage the slide-out-of-battery safety, and that this has "saved a lot of cops lives." I personally don't know of any cops that have saved their own bacon by doing this, but I suppose it's possible while wrestling for control of a 1911.He said as soon as you stuck your finger in, the barrel would move back just enough not to fire.
With a revolver, grab the cylinder;