manta49 said:Does a bullet from a handgun not just put a hole in you, destroying some tissue and letting fluids run out. Depending on where it hits you that could be fatal, or just annoying and some things in between.
I bet it didn't knock them down either.That would depend on what you're wearing, the mass of the bullet, and the velocity of the bullet. I personally know 3 people who have been shot by handguns that did not put a hole in them, did not destroy any tissue, and did not have fluids running out.
From what I think I've understood:
-Bullet, when hitting target should "share" it's momentum with it. After hit, the momentum of target and bullet moving together should be equal to momentum they had before hit. If target was not moving before, their momentum after hit should be equal to momentum the bullet had.
-Same applies to bullet and weapon, i.e. together they have the same momentum (0) before and after shot. It means that weapon's momentum is equal to bullet's mommentum, they are just moving in opposite directions. It means that weapon's momentum is equal to momentum that target and bullet have together after hit.
If above is correct(?), why are you considering the amount of kinetic energy when talking about knockdown power? Isn't it irrelevant?
Fast bullet has very high kinetic energy, but it should be a heavy stone with high moment that will have easier time knocking somebody down when thrown.
Please correct me if I'm wrong.
manta49 said:I bet it didn't knock them down either.
WVsig: said:In most common calibers it is a myth....
Most handgun calibers require a vital shot of some kind or lots of little hole which create a lot of little sources of blood loss in order to stop BGs.
For all the people giving single examples of handguns "stopping" people or animals I would like to remind you.... all poodles are dogs not all dogs are poodles.
Single examples are not expressions of universal truth.
481 said:"Stopping power" with anything "handheld" simply does not exist.
45_auto: said:Obviously posted by someone who's never seen what an RPG with an HE warhead does to the human body .....
In my example with the empty Coke cans, the .44 magnum (240 grain @ ~ 1400 fps) was less than impressive.
OTOH - the 150 grain .30/30@ ~2400 fps was extremely impressive.
But - which one would drop a big brown bear, an elk or a moose?
So to put in context I carry the most powerful gun I can conceal and shoot well. Right now it is a S&W 44 magnum.
481 said:You must look awfully funny walking around town with that RPG shoved in your waistband.
& a whole lot more toss the TKO numbers on the campfire .Some feel the higher the KO factor the better