Handgun clarification

Any reputable gunshop would refuse to sell you a gun if they suspected that a straw-purchase was taking place. I believe they can get in trouble over it too.
sabrefanpc said:
I would think any straw purchase would be somewhat difficult to prove...
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...he said as the ATF led him off to ClubFed for 3-5. :D
 
Oh no, I would never even ask a friend to do anything with questionable legality. I simply was noting that it seems to be a fine line that may be hard to differentiate in court.
 
Theres one more thing I would like to add. If you cannot find another way and can't wait your 21st birthday then as long as it is legal in your state to do this, it is legal for you town a handgun in your state at your age and you are legal to own a handgun and not a felon-A person may legally make their own handgun if it is for personal use and not for resale and you do not have to have a license to do so and you do not have to register it (according to federal regulations). Your state may not allow this though and if they do they may tell you to register the handgun. Also you may have to be careful what kind of handgun you make because of the Any Other Weapons restrictions (example: a .90 caliber pistol).

But I am not a lawyer and you should not take just my word for it. Research it on your own. I am just trying to help point you in the right direction for research.
 
Thanks, but I'll just keep my eyes open for private sellers.

Mechanically inclined, yes.
Pistolsmith, no.
Delusional enough to try...perhaps, but then I consider wraping my fingers around it and how much I would trust it to not remove them all in one big bang.
 
Got a point about not being one handed.

There are even two more possibilites but I do not know how they apply to someone under 21. You can possible buy an antique (made before 1898) revolver for about a hundred dollars (and up) without an FFL transfer and many of them shoot smokeless poweder if they were made close to 1898. You can get a pistol that shoots 38 S&W this way. Or you can buy a replica cap and ball revolver (I think my state allows under 21 purchase) for less than $200 without an FFL transfer (even by mailorder) and then buy something called a conversion cylinder ($250) that makes the revolver into a cartridge gun. This is so easy to convert that you do not need to be a gunsmith and it is legal (in many states) because it is considered making your own gun for personal use. I have done this (over the age of 21) and it is a real cowboy gun now that shoots .45 colt.
 
I didn't have a problem buying my HK from an individual here in Michigan, and I think anyone who has a problem with you has no idea what he's talking about.
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That is probably because here in MI, you have to get a purchase permit that says you have gone through a background check.

Have you asked your parents? I never thought mine would buy me one as a graduation gift, but they did.

Any reputable gunshop would refuse to sell you a gun if they suspected that a straw-purchase was taking place. I believe they can get in trouble over it too.
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I was buying a lower for an AR at the gunshow this weekend. They wouldn't let me borrow the $1.35 from my brother that I needed because I forgot about tax. Siad it was a straw purchase.
 
Ah.

I would simply start calling on anything that interests you. Tell them you will sign a form saying that you are not prohibited from owning a firearm, and let them see ID. I'll bet many won't care that you aren't 21. Maybe have a copy of the state and federal laws.

I don't know if your situtation would allow it or not, but maybe grandparents? Buying their favorite grandson a graduation/b-day/christmas/insert-any-other-applicable-occasions-here gift?

EDIT: I don't think you can have a NICS called in unless you are buying, and even if you did, you wouldn't be able to prove you passed.
 
(I think) you can call CEJIS or NICS and have them send you a fingerprint card. You get a police station to take your fingerprints and you send them to CEJIS/NICS and they will send you a copy of your record (if you have one).
 
tyme,

The BATFE "opinions" make me ill.
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I'm a bloody-minded anarchist who thinks that these laws are bogus restrictions of my right to buy and sell things as I please. That factoid won't keep a reader of this board out of Club Fed, however. If I have information to impart that might help with just that, then I feel that offering it for consideration is the right thing for me to do.
 
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