Had to pass on a 1991a1 today

If a gun that is totally reliable with live ammo will also feed empty cases, that's a neat parlor trick, but the idea that a gun set up to feed empty cases, will also reliably feed all loaded ammo, is not true.
 
1991a1's are not and were never "lower quality" than any other colt 1911. They are just given a different finish, rollmarks, trigger, and MS housing. It's the same gun off the same machines using the same materials made by the same people as their other models. Of course, as overall Colt 1911 quality varied over the years, so did 1991a1 quality.

I have two 1991a1's, and they are my most reliable and accurate 1911's.
I paid less than $600 for each of them, in excellent shape
I've thought about swapping triggers on them, but have been told by a few 1911 fans that I would probably end up with a worse trigger, as the factory ones are both extremely good, plastic though they may be. They are definitely better than my Colt series 70 or sig 1911.
 
If you had a gun that didn't, would you send it for repair with instructions to do the necessary modifications to feed empty cases?
It's a possible byproduct of a gun that will feed ammo reliably, but not something to be pursued independently of function with loaded ammo.
 
If you had a gun that didn't, would you send it for repair with instructions to do the necessary modifications to feed empty cases?
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Of course not but I don't send guns in to fix feeding issues either.
It's a possible byproduct of a gun that will feed ammo reliably, but not something to be pursued independently of function with loaded ammo.
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Actually it's a by product of somebody who does failure drills realizing that it's probably unnecessary with that gun cause it gonna run like hot butter.
 
If a gun that is totally reliable with live ammo will also feed empty cases, that's a neat parlor trick, but the idea that a gun set up to feed empty cases, will also reliably feed all loaded ammo, is not true.
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Wanna bet? If the gun can feed empty cases, then it can feed any sort of wadcutter ammo or semi wadcutters.

As delivered from the factory, a 1911 that is properly made should feed 230gr round nose ball with no problems, but doesn't always feed other types of ammo. Once it is well-tuned enough to feed empty cases, it will feed anything you put in it.

Hardly a parlor trick.
 
I think the fans of feeding empty cases are missing my point.

Nobody tunes their gun to feed empty cases to ensure that it will feed loaded ammo.

If you work only with empty cases, carefully adjusting so empty cases feed to perfection, you will very possibly find that it won't reliably feed anything but those empty cases. If the gun feeds empties, that's great, but it's not a goal, it's a side-effect of properly-functioning gun.
 
I think the fans of feeding empty cases are missing my point.

Nobody tunes their gun to feed empty cases to ensure that it will feed loaded ammo.

If you work only with empty cases, carefully adjusting so empty cases feed to perfection, you will very possibly find that it won't reliably feed anything but those empty cases. If the gun feeds empties, that's great, but it's not a goal, it's a side-effect of properly-functioning gun.
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I'm not sure what your point is.

Many of my customers brought their 1911s to me that were having feed issues with ammo other than 230gr RN ball. Once I tuned the guns to feed the empty cases, they would also feed virtually any other type of ammo. That's the point.
 
I worked for a credit card company for a few years, and apparently in the legal agreement companies sign with the credit card companies it specifically said that they have to treat credit the same as cash. Is not widely enforced, but technically, shops can lose their credit card machine, and potentially open themselves to a lawsuit if they price things differently based on payment type, or require a minimum purchase amount.

Occasionally when I'm in a bad mood and someone tries to charge me more for using plastic I bring that up.

But it sounds like even the cash price for this gun was to high.
I've never had luck with pawn shops either.
 
I worked for a credit card company for a few years, and apparently in the legal agreement companies sign with the credit card companies it specifically said that they have to treat credit the same as cash. Is not widely enforced, but technically, shops can lose their credit card machine, and potentially open themselves to a lawsuit if they price things differently based on payment type, or require a minimum purchase amount.
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This uses to be the case when people had to have a direct merchant account with a major processor but these days things like The Square, New Amazon reader and other 3rd party processors this is no longer the case because you do not have a direct relationship with the credit card companies that were required with the traditional terminals.

I personally do not pay it. I will only use a credit card if there is no fee but you also have to remember that a credit card will give you a lot more buyer protection for non-face to face transactions like GB.

Anyway the OP was correct to not pick up this gun.
 
i suspect part of the 'want cash' deal was that he wouldn't have to 1) pay the merchant fee, 2) he would have the cash NOW, not in 30-60 days when Visa settled up.

bought something else a bit ago, cash you say? yeah, i can do cash. excellent, discount for you!!

always good to have a stash of cash in your pocket.
 
I too never have luck with pawn shops. It turns my stomach to walk in and see dirty beat up power tools with FULL NEW prices on them. I believe they try to take advantage of the people that are unaware of prices but "think" they will save at a used merchandise store.
As far as firearms go...it's the same ! Your best bet is to get the people that walk out of the pawn shop because they can't afford to give away their goods and offer them a better price on it, hopefully a fair one and good deal for both party's !

Just my $.02 worth

Mike
 
first you have to catch the guy pawning his gun. then you have to assume the risk that he's not selling a hot gun. i prefer to go thru a FFL.
 
I agree, the shop wants too much money.

I found my 1991a1 to be very reliable and had no problems with anything I fed it.

Then I started "upgrading" it with aftermarket parts and chased one problem after another for years.

Then I dropped it off with Teddy Jacobson. After receiving his Street Reliability Package it was once again running well. Enjoyed shooting it up until I gave my son his choice of my handguns and he claimed it. :)
 
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