Had a gun stolen...and a question

Some people will make the claim that manufacturers caution against super-velocity / hyper-velocity ammunition in a .22 LR pistol (or +P+ or +P ammunition in larger caliber firearms) just for legal protection.

But I agree with the notion that the manufacturers know the design, the capabilities, and the limitations of their guns much better than anyone else.

You often hear complaints about something breaking or not working properly, when the user was not following the manufacturer's guidelines for usage or maintenance printed right in the manual.

If the manufacturer specifically states to use a certain kind of ammunition, or to not use a certain kind of ammunition, I think it is for the best to follow those instructions.
 
It's all a game of CYA shoot what you need to use

The manufacturers are playing a game of CYA.
Any quality handgun from a major manufacturer will easily handle anything that a "Factory Ammo load" can produce.
The recommendation from the less favorable manufacturers will quickly be an indication that their handguns are sub-standard in relation to the higher quality guns.

An occasional "Hyper-Velocity" round put thru a firearm won't be a death sentence to it, under all but the worst built guns.
Much like shooting a 110 or 125 gr. bullet thru my S&W Model 19 or my Model 66. It's not recommended, but I will and do shoot them occasionally for practice.
The 125 Gr. Speer Gold Dot is always loaded in my Model 66 for Protection. Occasional use won't be a problem, except to the BG.
Practice with your normal "Safe to Shoot" ammo, and load the HV's for personal protection. At 5-10 Yards the differences in bullet placement will be less than inches between all of them anyway.
For your personal protection, use the most powerful or most destructive bullet you can. You will never regret that decision.
 
My Chrony showed they lie about the Velociters. Stingers were much more consistent than they have been purported to be! Mini-Mags are the old standby and chrony'd very consistent out of several different guns/barrel lengths.

I would stick with solids over HP's in 22 for SD. Penetration is your friend.

You guys lock them guns up better and be more diligent! The economy is bad and getting worse, thefts are on the rise...Expect it to happen and take steps.
 
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I don't get in caliber debates... as I've seen cases where someone was shot and killed with a .22 and .25 (all of them head shots) , versus 5 shots in the face with a .38 who survived it. I wouldn't bet on a .22 for body shots stopping anyone unless you hit something really vital, which has occurred (but on the rare side).

Blazer CCI, Mini-Mag, to get the velocity. Consider a shotgun for home defense.
 
While I don't use a 22 as a defense weapon I have on at least one occasion long ago where I was forced to have it as my only option. In 1967 there was a riot in Detroit where I lived and I only owned a hunting rifle and had no ammo for it. The Sate Government immediately banned all liquor, ammo and gun sales withinn a 90 mile radius of Detroit. My dad loaned me a Remington 552 semi auto rifle and handed me a brick of ammo. I kept it loaded in my apartment and I felt much better then when I didn't have it.

I would feel much more comfortable with a pistol in 22LR then nothing at all and when I travel my girlfriend keeps my 22 semi auto pistol by the bed because it's the only gun she can shoot well. When I'm home there a Sig P226 in 40 S&W by the bed but I feel better with her having the 22 pistol rather then nothing at all.
 
Totally apart from the caliber debate, have you learned your lesson yet?

There are any number of security devices available, from bolt-down mini-lock-boxes to a simple cable through the ejection port, down through the mag well and locked to the seat frame.

Do a search, get some ideas, and secure the darn thing so it doesn't happen again (another dirtbag or the same dirtbag coming back for seconds).
 
My main beef with .22LR is that they don't always fire. In a box of 50 through my S&W 22a I have probably 5 or so ftf (feed or fire) and I have had similar issues with a Rugar semi and a taurus revolver in .22mag. I know you can get a bad centerfire round, but nowhere near as often as with a rimfire cartridge ... I don't want to need that round and hear a thud instead of a bang ... you need IMHO to try something bigger and better ...
 
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