H&R Pardner question

I followed ya Zippy :D

As for this statement from earlier in the thread:

But a gun marked with a 2 3/4" chamber will only handle 2 3/4" shells.
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Yes, and no...

It can handle any shell UP TO 2 3/4 inch max open length...There are shells that are shorter still sold today, and these are fine in a 2 3/4 inch chamber...Just don't put a shell that is MORE than 2 3/4 inch over all length when open (fired) in a chamber that is shorter...To make it even more confusing, back at the turn of the last century (1900) there were still guns with 2 5/16" chambers, so you need to know the length of older unmarked chambers before firing any shell in them...

Back in the days of reloading paper shells and fiber wads, we often cut off the top 1/4 inch of the shell once it got ragged, went to a thinner over-powder wad, and simply roll crimped the shell...

Here are some 2 1/2" shells:

http://www.polywad.com/vintager.html

Here are some 1 1/2" shells:

http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/product_info.php/pName/100rds-12-gauge-aguila-minishell-7-12-bird-shot

Both will work fine in 2 3/4 inch and 3 inch chambers...Just don't put a 3 inch shell in a 2 3/4" chamber...
 
What choke do you have? Its really not a good idea to shoot slugs in a full choked barrel. Most slugs call for an IMPROVED CYLINDER OR CYLINDER CHOKE. At least I wouldn't fire a slug through anything other than the two chokes I mentioned.
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I've fired rifled slugs through a full choke and had no adverse effects. In fact from a bench with a 4x scope I can shoot 2" three shot groups at 75yds from my Mossberg 500 pump. In fact I've taken more deer with that setup than any other long gun I own (simply because it gets the most field time).

Anyway back to the original question. You CAN shoot SHORTER shells through your gun than what it is chambered for. You CANNOT however shoot SMALLER shells through the same gun.
 
My friend, that would be loading two, not shooting them. IINM, with firearms, shoot implies the payload successfully leaving the barrel, not disintegrating the gun. Yet, in demolition an explosion is considered a successful shoot.
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No one said anything about blowing up the barrel and if course you shoot both shells. Both the shooter and the shootee are shot in a mannet to speak.:rolleyes:
 
I know this is an old thread, but I might as well and post on it anyways. I have an H&R from the early '30s or so and it's a great gun. It's a .410 with a 3 inch chamber. These guns are very reliable and you can go to walmart and buy a H&R/New England shotgun and get it for around $120-$130. Or you can go the used route and get them for $35-$100. Heck, I have a rifle version of these guns in 45-70, and love it.
 
Salmoneye brought up a good point about shell length. Some older shotguns had very tight cut chambers. I use an H&R to hunt deer and it is from the 30's. Some brands of 2 3/4 " slugs are slightly longer than others when open and get stuck in my gun when ejecting. Same with 00 Buck shot. At first I thought it was dirt build up, but it was the front of the shell welding into the area at the end of the chamber.
 
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