H. B. 195 - Texas Open Carry

Straus.

Looks like any OC bill will be dead in the water, again!
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There's more pressure this year to do something with open carry. Even if it means following Oklahoma's lead and allowing CHL holders to open carry.
The new Governor stated during the campaign that he supported the idea.
Contact your State Senator and Representative and let them know where you stand on the subject.
 
The bill is dead now that this has occurred.

youtube video of episode imbedded in article
http://www.texastribune.org/2015/01/13/gun-rights-activists-cause-stir-texas-capitol/

A tidbit:
State Rep. Poncho Nevárez, D-Eagle Pass, told The Texas Tribune he had to ask a group of open-carry advocates to leave his office after they grew increasingly confrontational when he said he was not supporting the bill.

"I’m loath to throw somebody out. I’ve never had to do that, ever, and I hope I never have to do that again," he said. “It’s not a good way to talk about things; it’s not my way. I feel sorry for those folks who truly believe in the issue and don’t run around calling people names. I feel sorry for them because their cause is hurt."
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This kind of ignorance is exactly what we don't need. Makes me ashamed to know that I'll be associated with those boneheads by proxy, because we share similar beliefs.

The more I watch it, the more it upsets me. I wish they understood that rational discourse will get further than mindless bullying. Troglodytes.
 
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Makes me ashamed to know that I'll be associated with those boneheads by proxy, because we share similar beliefs.
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For what it's worth, he's being disavowed by OCT proper, but his antics still end up getting the bulk of the publicity.

It appears there are three separate bills pending, two for licensed open carry and one for unlicensed open carry. Abbott has said he'll sign one of them, but it's unclear which (if any) will reach his desk.
 
Texas should take a hint from AZ, we have always had no permit open carry, but concealed required a permit until 3 years ago when someone finally got it thru their head that you could be charged with a FELONY for putting a coat when it is cold. AZ is now one of 4 states that has Constitutional Carry, no permit needed for open or concealed carry.
These people do great work
http://www.azcdl.org/
 
We have been down this road before:

1. What a governor says is worth nothing until he and Lt. Gov. take positive action. Saying that the gov. will sign the bill when it gets to him is worth as much as George Bush saying he will sign the AWB renewal when it gets to him.

2. We have debated the pros and cons of OC as a deterrent, tactical choice, etc. into the ground. Nothing new here.

3. OC antics have probably killed the very small possibility of getting campus carry which is much, much more useful in saving lives.

Why don't we wait until we see if the Legislature actually does anything - then we can get all excited again.

That's a hint!! Unless we have anything more to say that is actually NEW info - let this be for the time.
 
Glenn E. Meyer said:
Unless we have anything more to say that is actually NEW info - let this be for the time.
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Generally agreed, but I have one question that I think is pertinent...
zincwarrior said:
The bill is dead now that this [rude OC advocates harass Rep. Poncho Nevárez] has occurred.
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Does anyone know if Mr. Nevárez holds an influential position on any committee that will have to vet these bills?

[Explanatory note to those unfamiliar with the TX legislative process... TX's short biennial legislative sessions tend to give committees an exaggerated influence because procedural delays within the committees often prevent bills from reaching the floor before the session ends. Thus, many TX bills die without a floor vote, and influential committee members often use this to their advantage because they can kill a bill without publicly advertising that they've done so.]
 
The biggest hinderance to OC is the press coverage of the idiots like OCTC....while ignoring groups that are doing it right like Texas Carry. We, as gun owners, need to stop talking about the idiots and spread positive news. That would improve things for Texas gun owners.

http://texascarry.org/about-us.html?m
 
The biggest hindrance to OC is the press coverage of the idiots like OCTC
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I couldn't agree more. However, it's getting the press to ignore OCTC that will be hard work. They do seem to draw a crowd and make media targets of themselves every chance they get.
 
I wish the NON-LUNATICS supporting open carry would write an open letter of apology to State Rep. Poncho Nevárez, D-Eagle Pass, apologizing for and disavowing the ANTICS of KORY WATKINS. It should be very clear on the point that while open carry advocates have significant philosophical differences with State Rep. Nevarez, they agree with him that OCTC's confrontation of him in his office serves only to hurt the open-carry cause.
 
Wonder if OCT and OCTC had anything to do with this lack of support? My guess is, yes.
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Your guess matches mine.

Frankly, after all the buffoonery, disguised as protests and demonstrations, I don't even like to say the words: "Open Carry" in front of witnesses lest someone assume I'm in favor of carrying unslung ARs in stores and restaurants before I can explain otherwise.

I imagine that the more successful (and respectable) gun rights advocates and advocacy groups would like to protect their reputations by waiting to push OC until the recent shenanigans fade from the collective memory of the media and the public.
State Rep. Poncho Nevárez, D-Eagle Pass, told The Texas Tribune he had to ask a group of open-carry advocates to leave his office after they grew increasingly confrontational when he said he was not supporting the bill.
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I watched a pack of OC fruitcakes ambush Charles Cotton (unofficial volunteer legal counsel for TSRA) at a legal seminar and explain to him at length and at full volume how the law and the legislative process worked. They would not let him exit gracefully and he finally had to be rude to get away. It was embarrassing to watch...
 
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