I asked at the dealer about getting a Glock 29 10mm. Salesman claims they won't hold up to the 10. They didn't have any in stock, although they carry most other Glocks. Also he tried to convince me the 10 is dead. Thats his opinion I guess. The 10 is something I don't have and don't wany a Smith or Witness. I'm figuring they are wrong about the Glock. What is your experience with the 29's durability in the long haul?
Gunshop says no to Glock 29
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Would someone please tell this gunshop that the purpose of being in bidness is to make money, not to lecture people? Leave the lectures for TFL.
"No, sir, I don't have any right now. Please come back in two days and I'll have four of them. Can I get your office number so I can call you when they arrive? Can I show you anything else? How about a holster, magazines, ammo, cleaning stuff, ear protectors, etc.? Have a wonderful day."
"No, sir, I don't have any right now. Please come back in two days and I'll have four of them. Can I get your office number so I can call you when they arrive? Can I show you anything else? How about a holster, magazines, ammo, cleaning stuff, ear protectors, etc.? Have a wonderful day."
Amazing how many forget that.
Customer: "Which pistol/revolver do you recommend?"
Tamara: "I have several with fine reputations in the case here sir/ma'am, let's play with a few of 'em and see which one fits you best."
If I wanted to proselytize, I'd order a case or two of this month's Watchtower.
Please keep in mind that there is no extensive training program that retail sales people go through. I can not believe some of the garbage I've heard in all sorts of specialty boutiques. If the Audi dealer thinks it's okay to just make stuff up, why shoudn't the gun monger?
Just nod and ask when they could get one. Then leave if they can't.
Just nod and ask when they could get one. Then leave if they can't.
Handy, I have bought there several times but this purchase will be made else where if I decide to get one. I don't want to have to talk them into spending my money there. I hear a lot of ignorance from saleman and basically ignore them and do what I know is best. I just don't know much of the reputation of the Glock 10. I can't just take their word for it.
I agree completely.
The one nice thing about message boards like this one is that just about anything bad that may have ever happened with a modern pistol is available through the search function. I generally pay attention to 10mm posts and haven't seen anything negative on the 29.
But expect to get dumb answers out of every possible place if you shop long enough. No store is staffed with factory reps. I buy used alot.
The one nice thing about message boards like this one is that just about anything bad that may have ever happened with a modern pistol is available through the search function. I generally pay attention to 10mm posts and haven't seen anything negative on the 29.
But expect to get dumb answers out of every possible place if you shop long enough. No store is staffed with factory reps. I buy used alot.
MedicatedOne
New member
Oh goody, advice from a gun shop flunky... 
Ignore em and go buy one at another shop, the 10mm is alive and well, just ask this board and Tamara.
Better yet go to Tamaras shop and get some good advice from her... may be a long drive, but it would be worth it.
Ignore em and go buy one at another shop, the 10mm is alive and well, just ask this board and Tamara.
Better yet go to Tamaras shop and get some good advice from her... may be a long drive, but it would be worth it.
Fred Hansen
New member
I will let my handle here at TFL speak for me.
Amen, Tamara.
As usual, you distinguish yourself from the herd. Thank you.
Were it only that 99% of the other gun shop workers could be as knowledgeable, competent and ethical.
Unfortunately, most gun shop people invariably make the counter-help at McDonald's look like geniuses.
This is especially true where the 10mm Auto is involved, since it - unlike virtually any other modern cartridge I know of - is subjected to scorn, misinformation, and double standards which other calibers seem to escape.
As to the original poster's inquiry, please - have no hesitation in selecting the G-29, if it's size, compactness and concealability is to your liking. Personally, I've only seen one post on GT about a problem with a G-29, and the poster later reported that Glock corrected it under warranty and the turn-around was quick.
My opinion is, you won't have any problems with your G-29. The gun was specifically designed, like its big brother, to handle the punishment inflicted by sustained firing of hot & heavy 10mm ammo (i.e., 200gns @ 1200 fps).
Remember: any gun maker can, and has, let a lemon slip out of the factory. The issue is: (1) how often does this occur? and (2) once notified, how fast do they correct the problem for the customer w/o attitude? (i.e., customer service. And, trust me, there's a world of difference between Glock's customer service and, say, EAA's).
Go for it.
As usual, you distinguish yourself from the herd. Thank you.
Were it only that 99% of the other gun shop workers could be as knowledgeable, competent and ethical.
Unfortunately, most gun shop people invariably make the counter-help at McDonald's look like geniuses.
This is especially true where the 10mm Auto is involved, since it - unlike virtually any other modern cartridge I know of - is subjected to scorn, misinformation, and double standards which other calibers seem to escape.
As to the original poster's inquiry, please - have no hesitation in selecting the G-29, if it's size, compactness and concealability is to your liking. Personally, I've only seen one post on GT about a problem with a G-29, and the poster later reported that Glock corrected it under warranty and the turn-around was quick.
My opinion is, you won't have any problems with your G-29. The gun was specifically designed, like its big brother, to handle the punishment inflicted by sustained firing of hot & heavy 10mm ammo (i.e., 200gns @ 1200 fps).
Remember: any gun maker can, and has, let a lemon slip out of the factory. The issue is: (1) how often does this occur? and (2) once notified, how fast do they correct the problem for the customer w/o attitude? (i.e., customer service. And, trust me, there's a world of difference between Glock's customer service and, say, EAA's).
Go for it.
Nothing more annoying than researching a gun for months, going into the local shop, asking if they have a particular gun, then having the shop guy say "we don't have any of those in, but I wouldn't buy one because (fill in the blank). . . If I were you I'd buy (fill in the blank)". Coincidentally they just happen to have the gun they recommend.
Now I have no problem with them trying to make a sale, but enough with the comments about firearms we know to be great guns.
Shake
Now I have no problem with them trying to make a sale, but enough with the comments about firearms we know to be great guns.
Shake
I have a few thousand rounds through my new 20 and tens of thousand through my second gen. 20. Both have performed flawlessly out of the box, and with he exception of a broken sight on the old one, have needed no repair or parts replacement. A good friend of mine has a 29 with similar results. He has about 5000 rounds through it, mostly Silvertips and Cor-bon's with zero problems, malfunctions or breakdowns.
TheeBadOne
Moderator
One very big thing in Glocks favor for 10mm pistols, they were designed to fire full power 10mm loads for the life expectancy quotes. That is why the .45 ACP Glock is even more durable. The .45 Glock was designed off the 10mm Glock. Just think how long a .45 Glock will last with it's lower pressure round firing out of a platform designed to take full power 10mm ammo. Glock 10mm will be the 10mm for me if I ever decide to get a pistol in that caliber. Take a heck of a lot of shooting to wear it out.
The only problem I have with the glock 29 is I can't decide between it and the 20. Nice problem to have.
If still worried, go over to glock talk. They have a section called the ten ring. This is for 10mm questions. If you go way back and read towards the front in the history of that section you will find some nut who handloads beyond spec. I am using nut in a good way, he has proven the 10mm is a round that can go beyond what most books list. And the glock took him there. The questions and experience in the ten ring have proven what has been told already in this post. Glock made the guns to handle real 10mm rounds. Without modifications or early retirement.
Nice problem to have.If still worried, go over to glock talk. They have a section called the ten ring. This is for 10mm questions. If you go way back and read towards the front in the history of that section you will find some nut who handloads beyond spec. I am using nut in a good way, he has proven the 10mm is a round that can go beyond what most books list. And the glock took him there. The questions and experience in the ten ring have proven what has been told already in this post. Glock made the guns to handle real 10mm rounds. Without modifications or early retirement.
In his book God Guns and Rock and Roll, Ted Nugent swears by a Glock in 10 mm - That guy is a serious gun nut and has the money to get what ever gun he wants and he likes that Glock. That should give the gun a little credibility.
The 10 mm is not as porular as it could have been but it won't disapear any time soon, if you reload it can be around a very long time.
This is by no means a Glock ad, personaly I don't realy care for them but there are good things about them.
The 10 mm is not as porular as it could have been but it won't disapear any time soon, if you reload it can be around a very long time.
This is by no means a Glock ad, personaly I don't realy care for them but there are good things about them.
I guess I'm one of the lucky ones, my favorite shop is full of employees that are honest. If they haven't fired a particular model, thye'll just tell you that without retelling the latest Guns & Ammo lie as their own. (Not that every employee behind the counter at ArizonaSportsman says that a G29 kicks harder than a 12 gauge, it could be just that one jackass and his boss.)
flinch_of_gt
New member
Out of all the guns that fire the mighty 10mm, the Glock 20 and 29 are two that were designed right out of the box to fire full-power loads (not the downloaded FBI "Lite" ones that formed the basis for the 40 S&W).
As a gunshop employee, I do have two issues with the Model 29. I don't recommend it to new shooters, and ammo availability can be limited. Most shops don't have a large stock of 10mm rounds laying about, but that's why there's the Internet.
As a gunshop employee, I do have two issues with the Model 29. I don't recommend it to new shooters, and ammo availability can be limited. Most shops don't have a large stock of 10mm rounds laying about, but that's why there's the Internet.