I usually don`t watch the soaps (honest!) but a few years ago on one the actor who was playing a detective really got me going. The bad guy was holed up and the cops were gearing up to go in. Our hero was surrounded by guys in SWAT gear and he was in civilian clothes. He had a 4" M&P in a shoulder holster. As he was telling the other cops what they were going to do, he pulls the gun out, loads it, snaps the cylinder closed with a wrist flip and continues talking with the gun waving in his hand.
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Guys. Sam. L. Jackson's Mr. 9MM was a Llama, not a Colt. 
If you look real close, you can see that the extractor is different from Colt"s.
What I never could figure out is after Bruce Willis cuts Travola in two with a sub-gun, Travolta ends up in that coffee shop alive and well. Was this the second coming of Travolta???
Paul B.
If you look real close, you can see that the extractor is different from Colt"s. What I never could figure out is after Bruce Willis cuts Travola in two with a sub-gun, Travolta ends up in that coffee shop alive and well. Was this the second coming of Travolta???
Paul B.
In Pulp Fiction, I remember when Travolta and Jackson point their pistols at the camera, at least one looks like a 9mm or 38 Super caliber if not both.
Val "Doc Holliday" Kilmer fired three shots from a 2-bbl, and a horde of lead from his Colts at the Gunfight at OK Corral in all of about 5 seconds!
Lest we think that all fancy gun handling is bull, Wild Bill Hikock fired pretty well with both hands under pressure. I'm sure there are others, perhaps Ed McGivern, but admit that fancy gun handlers are few and far between.
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Be mentally deliberate but muscularly fast. Aim for just above the belt buckle Wyatt Earp
"It is error alone that needs government support; truth can stand by itself." Tom Jefferson
If you have to shoot a man, shoot him in the guts, it may not kill him... sometimes they die slow, but it'll paralyze his brain and arm and the fight is all but over Wild Bill Hickok
Remember: When you attempt to rationalize two inconsistent positions, you risk drowning as your own sewage backs up.
45 ACP: Give 'em a new navel! BigG
Val "Doc Holliday" Kilmer fired three shots from a 2-bbl, and a horde of lead from his Colts at the Gunfight at OK Corral in all of about 5 seconds!
Lest we think that all fancy gun handling is bull, Wild Bill Hikock fired pretty well with both hands under pressure. I'm sure there are others, perhaps Ed McGivern, but admit that fancy gun handlers are few and far between.
LOL
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Be mentally deliberate but muscularly fast. Aim for just above the belt buckle Wyatt Earp
"It is error alone that needs government support; truth can stand by itself." Tom Jefferson
If you have to shoot a man, shoot him in the guts, it may not kill him... sometimes they die slow, but it'll paralyze his brain and arm and the fight is all but over Wild Bill Hickok
Remember: When you attempt to rationalize two inconsistent positions, you risk drowning as your own sewage backs up.
45 ACP: Give 'em a new navel! BigG
Joseph, Road King,
In The Bodyguard, Kevin Costner's primary handgun (the one he racks the slide on AFTER hearing the suspicious noise) is a Browning Hi-Power 9mm. He carries that on on his right hip. In some scenes, he also has a "New York" reload, which is an HK P7M8, carried butt- forward on his left side.
For some encouraging movie-gun-handling, check out the movie THIEF, starring James Caan. I heard somewhere that Caan actually got some training (supposedly at Gunsite) before making the movie. If that's true, Col Cooper's stand on RKBA didn't stick with him.
Also, in the first season of MIAMI VICE, for the 'Hit List' episode, the bad guy/assassin hired to kill Don Johnson and a whole bunch of others is played, not by an actor, but by a then nationally-ranked IPSC shooter named Jim Zubiena. I sometimes use the opening scene of that episode to demonstrate to my officers how fast the fertilizer can hit the rotary oscillator. For those who haven't seen it, or don't remember it, the BG, posing as a limo driver, assassinates a drug dealer in Holloywood fashion with a SPAS-12 shotgun, and when confronted, gently lays down the SGN, waits for the bodyguard to glance away, then snatches a 1911 from under his shirt and shoots the bodyguard. Most of the officers I show this to can't even tell me how many shots he fires (it's three; two to the chest, one to the head) then, glancing around to check the area for witnesses, drops the 1911's magazine, clears the chamber, leaves the now empty 1911 on the dad bodyguard's chest, and walks to his getaway car. Really cool gunhandling, for a TV show.
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In The Bodyguard, Kevin Costner's primary handgun (the one he racks the slide on AFTER hearing the suspicious noise) is a Browning Hi-Power 9mm. He carries that on on his right hip. In some scenes, he also has a "New York" reload, which is an HK P7M8, carried butt- forward on his left side.
For some encouraging movie-gun-handling, check out the movie THIEF, starring James Caan. I heard somewhere that Caan actually got some training (supposedly at Gunsite) before making the movie. If that's true, Col Cooper's stand on RKBA didn't stick with him.
Also, in the first season of MIAMI VICE, for the 'Hit List' episode, the bad guy/assassin hired to kill Don Johnson and a whole bunch of others is played, not by an actor, but by a then nationally-ranked IPSC shooter named Jim Zubiena. I sometimes use the opening scene of that episode to demonstrate to my officers how fast the fertilizer can hit the rotary oscillator. For those who haven't seen it, or don't remember it, the BG, posing as a limo driver, assassinates a drug dealer in Holloywood fashion with a SPAS-12 shotgun, and when confronted, gently lays down the SGN, waits for the bodyguard to glance away, then snatches a 1911 from under his shirt and shoots the bodyguard. Most of the officers I show this to can't even tell me how many shots he fires (it's three; two to the chest, one to the head) then, glancing around to check the area for witnesses, drops the 1911's magazine, clears the chamber, leaves the now empty 1911 on the dad bodyguard's chest, and walks to his getaway car. Really cool gunhandling, for a TV show.
Stay safe.
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"No man who's in the
wrong can stand against
a man who knows he's
right and keeps on
a-comin'."
Capt. Bill McDonald
Texas Rangers
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In the Alex Baldwin, Kim Basinger version of "The Getaway", the gun handling was quite accurate (to my mind, although when Kin was onscreen, I wasn't looking at the guns).
Steven Seagal's martial arts flicks seem to be pretty good too, accuracywise.
As an earlier post said..."Ronin" was great! BTW, I saw this on HBO...after the movie, there was a short interview with DeNiro and Frankenheimer (director). DeNiro brought up how dangerous guns were, but was quickly shut down by Frankenheimer.
My step daughter works in the movie industry. She's not a shooter but has done some shooting.
Most directors don't care about accuracy in gun handling...all action...that's all they want.
Steven Seagal's martial arts flicks seem to be pretty good too, accuracywise.
As an earlier post said..."Ronin" was great! BTW, I saw this on HBO...after the movie, there was a short interview with DeNiro and Frankenheimer (director). DeNiro brought up how dangerous guns were, but was quickly shut down by Frankenheimer.
My step daughter works in the movie industry. She's not a shooter but has done some shooting.
Most directors don't care about accuracy in gun handling...all action...that's all they want.
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A couple of thoughts:
I generally loved 'Magnum PI' (esp. Rick's constant supply of small machine guns) but Magnum's pistol handling was often terrible. He often racked the slide of his 1911 with his finger on the trigger. I would have expected more from a NRA spokesman!
Interesting that DeNiro would say that guns are dangerous. I understand he has a CCW permit in New York of all places. Oh, guess guns are dangerous for other people.
I generally loved 'Magnum PI' (esp. Rick's constant supply of small machine guns) but Magnum's pistol handling was often terrible. He often racked the slide of his 1911 with his finger on the trigger. I would have expected more from a NRA spokesman!
Interesting that DeNiro would say that guns are dangerous. I understand he has a CCW permit in New York of all places. Oh, guess guns are dangerous for other people.
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by DesertRat:
Hollywood made a good display of the awesome "knock-down" power available from a handgun
. Remember the movie "Stick" with Burt Reynolds (1985)?
The scene where the BG uses his 4" SS S&W Model 29 to launch the Chauffer/Pool guy 4' into the air and 6' backwards into the pool. I just can't figure out why the BG wasn't similarly "kicked" 4' upwards and 6' back when he touched off that round!?![/quote]
Guys/Gals - they are criminals - they don't obey the law (of physics )
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Hollywood made a good display of the awesome "knock-down" power available from a handgun
. Remember the movie "Stick" with Burt Reynolds (1985)? The scene where the BG uses his 4" SS S&W Model 29 to launch the Chauffer/Pool guy 4' into the air and 6' backwards into the pool. I just can't figure out why the BG wasn't similarly "kicked" 4' upwards and 6' back when he touched off that round!?![/quote]
Guys/Gals - they are criminals - they don't obey the law (of physics
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Clint Eastwood flick Pale Rider, Didn't have speed loaders for the time period, but carried extra cylinders. Did a speed cylinder reload when going after the deputies and shooting down the marshal
Great flick
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Great flick
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We preserve our freedoms by using four boxes: soap,ballot,jury, and cartridge.
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Costner uses his Hi-Power as a pointer in Bodyguard - gesturing at his client's sister with the muzzle.
Most movie .45's are Stars; the M1911 does not lend istself to blank use.
Kilmer was shooting a Thunderer DA in the OK Corral scene - the gun was actually a birdshead-gripped SAA, but it could represent a Thunderer, yes?
In Last Man Standing, Willis picks up his double shoulder rig and puts in on backwards, with butts to the rear. He is shown loading literally dozens of magazines - where does he put them?
T2 actually featured some pretty good gun handling by Linda Hamilton; lots of two-hand holds (without both index fingers on the trigger; one of my favorite faux pas), reloading, etc. Very cool compensated Detonics.
As good as the movie is, some of the most ridiculous stuff is in Butch Cassidy & SK. The Kid repeatedly fans his SA at BG's 75 yards away. It looks cool, but . . .
In River Wild, Meryl Streep fishes a DA Smith out of the river, and without even glancing at the cylinder - which has one round in it - she cocks the hammer and blows away the BG. How did she know where the round was, or that it would be indexed by cocking the hammer once?
Milius does generally get it right. He had two Colt potato diggers for Rough Riders, etc. He commented that he regretted that he had to arm the Marine contingent in The Wind and the Lion with Krags, as the proper Lee rifles weren't available. Most guys would have given them Springfields, and figured nobody would notice.
Chow Yun Fat has to be the worst. He is supposed to be an assasin of some kind (A Replacement Killer, actually), but he generally shoots gangsta style, often with two guns, and he connects maybe 10% of the time.
As for missing at 10 feet with a subgun; I attended a one-day subgun class, and one of the instructors made a waving, 25-round burst at three targets 20 feet away. One target was hit once, one was hit three times, and the other four times - the target with one hit "survived" at least two passes before being hit.
I always thought that the Spencer rifle was "miscast" in Unforgiven. Clint alludes to the accuracy and range - should have been a Sharps.
In Indiana Jones, the Nazis are mostly armed with MP40's and P-38's; in 1936.
Almost all TV shows and movies have the sound of slide racking accompanying every draw - pistol, revolver, etc. Is it supposed to be the gun rattling, or what?
There's a scene in a Bond where the lead Bond-girl (Carry Lowes, or something like that) literally blows a hole in a wall with a 12 gauge, through which she and 007 escape; I mean they walk through it.
My fav's.
Most movie .45's are Stars; the M1911 does not lend istself to blank use.
Kilmer was shooting a Thunderer DA in the OK Corral scene - the gun was actually a birdshead-gripped SAA, but it could represent a Thunderer, yes?
In Last Man Standing, Willis picks up his double shoulder rig and puts in on backwards, with butts to the rear. He is shown loading literally dozens of magazines - where does he put them?
T2 actually featured some pretty good gun handling by Linda Hamilton; lots of two-hand holds (without both index fingers on the trigger; one of my favorite faux pas), reloading, etc. Very cool compensated Detonics.
As good as the movie is, some of the most ridiculous stuff is in Butch Cassidy & SK. The Kid repeatedly fans his SA at BG's 75 yards away. It looks cool, but . . .
In River Wild, Meryl Streep fishes a DA Smith out of the river, and without even glancing at the cylinder - which has one round in it - she cocks the hammer and blows away the BG. How did she know where the round was, or that it would be indexed by cocking the hammer once?
Milius does generally get it right. He had two Colt potato diggers for Rough Riders, etc. He commented that he regretted that he had to arm the Marine contingent in The Wind and the Lion with Krags, as the proper Lee rifles weren't available. Most guys would have given them Springfields, and figured nobody would notice.
Chow Yun Fat has to be the worst. He is supposed to be an assasin of some kind (A Replacement Killer, actually), but he generally shoots gangsta style, often with two guns, and he connects maybe 10% of the time.
As for missing at 10 feet with a subgun; I attended a one-day subgun class, and one of the instructors made a waving, 25-round burst at three targets 20 feet away. One target was hit once, one was hit three times, and the other four times - the target with one hit "survived" at least two passes before being hit.
I always thought that the Spencer rifle was "miscast" in Unforgiven. Clint alludes to the accuracy and range - should have been a Sharps.
In Indiana Jones, the Nazis are mostly armed with MP40's and P-38's; in 1936.
Almost all TV shows and movies have the sound of slide racking accompanying every draw - pistol, revolver, etc. Is it supposed to be the gun rattling, or what?
There's a scene in a Bond where the lead Bond-girl (Carry Lowes, or something like that) literally blows a hole in a wall with a 12 gauge, through which she and 007 escape; I mean they walk through it.
My fav's.
How about The Replacement Killers? Most of the gun stuff was pretty good, but I did notice one thing in the video arcade shootout. The BG with the HKMP5K in the briefcase setup enters the scene and rips off about a dozen rounds out of the 'case. He then puts the case on the floor and extracts the MP5K from the rig. A little while later, his K has grown into a full size MP5A3. Hey! Maybe it has a 'collapsible barrel'?
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Originally posted by loknload:
Clint Eastwood flick Pale Rider, Didn't have speed loaders for the time period, but carried extra cylinders. Did a speed cylinder reload when going after the deputies and shooting down the marshal
Great flick
He did the same thing in The Outlaw Jose Wales.
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A few new ones:
The Practice a few days ago, actually a pretty good episode--the pretty-boy boss lawyer was kidnapped by a former client. As the client is standing in a window negotiating with police with a gun to "Bobby's" throat, the gun keeps magically morphing from Glock to Sig (I think) every time the camera cut away. I don't remember but I believe he also racked the action on a semi-auto rifle several times with no ammo ejected.
An old episode of The Incredible Hulk--BG carrying an M1 carbine. First of all, he racks it about 50 times. Everytime he gets mad, kla-chunk, but no round is ejected. Huh?
Also, when he finally shoots someone with it (turns out it was loaded after all) the old man he shoots with it flies backwards. Huh?
The scariest one, to me, is that abovementioned cop holding a gun in someone's back with finger on the trigger--he'll kill somebody someday, in real life. Hope somebody talks to him before that happens.
The Practice a few days ago, actually a pretty good episode--the pretty-boy boss lawyer was kidnapped by a former client. As the client is standing in a window negotiating with police with a gun to "Bobby's" throat, the gun keeps magically morphing from Glock to Sig (I think) every time the camera cut away. I don't remember but I believe he also racked the action on a semi-auto rifle several times with no ammo ejected.
An old episode of The Incredible Hulk--BG carrying an M1 carbine. First of all, he racks it about 50 times. Everytime he gets mad, kla-chunk, but no round is ejected. Huh?
Also, when he finally shoots someone with it (turns out it was loaded after all) the old man he shoots with it flies backwards. Huh?
The scariest one, to me, is that abovementioned cop holding a gun in someone's back with finger on the trigger--he'll kill somebody someday, in real life. Hope somebody talks to him before that happens.
How about "Saving Private Ryan", how many movies with the M1 Garand do you see the enbloc come out and reload the rifle? Or people panicking in when the weapon jams?I think the only Dirty Harry movie with Clint using speed loaders was Magnum Force. For really terrible weapons handling, check out anything produced by Andy Sidaris. Where else can you see a Tech 9 four barrelled rocket launcher that blows up a blow up doll in mid air? Or ex playmate secret agents running around scantily clad using an H and R Snakecharmer in .410 as a serious weapon? Good Laughs. But life imitates art: one morning I was conducting a building search after a break in, my supervisor is holding his weapon in the full Sabrina, not the half, the whole thing.
It always bothers me that in many movies when there is a revolver involved the character opens the cylander out on a modern revolver to check how many rounds are left or to load it and they spin the cylander and and it makes that clicking sound made only by the older styles of single action revolvers.
In "Silence of the Lambs" the BG did not have an SA revolver. it looked like a big DA revolver that could be a .44mag. "Agent Starling" had a .357mag not a .38spl and her shootings were pretty real. it takes a lot of skill in real life to reload a revolver under that amount of stress that fast.
In the X-files its funny to me that Scully still can't shoot. she limp-wrists her Sig and when she shoots she turns her head away from the gun and flinches.
ok don't get me started with "Desperado". come on people: the good guys had guitar cases that shot rockets!!! nuff said.
Paul B, in your post about Travolta comming alive again in "Pulp Fiction" were you serious? did you really not understand that hte movie's scenes were not all in order. the first and last scenes (in the diner) should have been together if it was in the right order.
oh yeah how about one of those "Naked Gun" movies. i forgot which one (i think 2 1/2) where OJ takes a desert eagle and turns it into a huge tank/gun. so what if it was supposed to be a comedy.
one of my favorite movies that most people have probably never heard of is "Resevoir Dogs" the shootings are reletively realistic exept for some shootings with 1 gun in each hand. one of the main characters gets shot in the stomach and he doesn't die in 1 second (wow). he actually lives for several more hours (although not quite in tip top shape). the people do reload their guns but its just a weird movie in general.
In the X-files its funny to me that Scully still can't shoot. she limp-wrists her Sig and when she shoots she turns her head away from the gun and flinches.
ok don't get me started with "Desperado". come on people: the good guys had guitar cases that shot rockets!!! nuff said.
Paul B, in your post about Travolta comming alive again in "Pulp Fiction" were you serious? did you really not understand that hte movie's scenes were not all in order. the first and last scenes (in the diner) should have been together if it was in the right order.
oh yeah how about one of those "Naked Gun" movies. i forgot which one (i think 2 1/2) where OJ takes a desert eagle and turns it into a huge tank/gun. so what if it was supposed to be a comedy.
one of my favorite movies that most people have probably never heard of is "Resevoir Dogs" the shootings are reletively realistic exept for some shootings with 1 gun in each hand. one of the main characters gets shot in the stomach and he doesn't die in 1 second (wow). he actually lives for several more hours (although not quite in tip top shape). the people do reload their guns but its just a weird movie in general.
LOL, you guys crack me up,. unlike some of those stiffers at gunsnet.net. (They gonna get angry at me for that).
Remember in T2, when Schwarzenegger cocked that lever action shotgun with one hand like a batton while on the motorcycle? I tried that with a replica and nearly cracked a knuckle =(. I guess only the terminator could do that.
Remember in T2, when Schwarzenegger cocked that lever action shotgun with one hand like a batton while on the motorcycle? I tried that with a replica and nearly cracked a knuckle =(. I guess only the terminator could do that.
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