Guns as investments?

Avoid faddish guns except for short term gains.
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Here are some "faddish" guns that would have given you some pretty good long term returns:

Braverman pen gun; pen rifle (I'd bet you would like to have that pen rifle!!)
COP 357
GRAD 22lr knife revolver/pistol
Desert Eagle Corbon 440
Powell Knife gun

Personally, I think trendy/faddish guns eventually make good investments. Here's my criteria for investing in faddish guns:

1. There has to be something striking, odd or unusual about the gun;
2. It has to be good quality, not cheap junk;
3. Buy used, 99% condition, not new - lowers your cost of entry and therefore your risk;
4. Try to get the box and goodies that originally came with it;
5. Usually manufactured by a small manufacturer;
6. Make sure there are more than 1,000 in existence. Too few and there's not as much interest.

Then just wait.....and wait.....and wait. The weird thing is that some of these faddish guns become more collectible faster and there is no rhyme or reason to it.
 
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Skans, you give good exceptions to my general rule. I was thinking more in line with such things as $800 KelTec pistols, ARs in 6.5 Grendel, wildcats, and so on. For every one you pick correctly, you'll buy ten others that lose.
 
For every one you pick correctly, you'll buy ten others that lose.
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True. Here are some on the other side of that coin:

HAC-7 - although rare, but you can find them for about twice what they cost in the mid '80's.

Hi-Tech made by Claridge - they go for about $600; I think that's close to what they cost new in the mid/late '80's

The Linda - anyone remember that one? I believe they sell in the $400 range, which is about what they sold for in the early '90's.

Colt SP1 Carbines - Probably can be had at the $1,000 mark... and falling.

Colt 2000 - there's a loser.

Detonics Pocket 9 - Not much more than original list price.
 
Guns as an investment is a loser. Unless one is into collecting antiques in good condition, there's little money in guns.

i've made big bucks on precious metals.
 
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In today's market, what would you buy at but in prices??

I would buy Colt 1911's, older S&W revolvers, Wilson/Brown/Baer 1911's, Colt 6920 AR's, Glocks of each generation & caliber, Benelli/Browning side by side shotguns, fine custom bolt rifles, English double rifes(name brands), the Winchester m70 collector rifles at Cabelas, etc
 
Agree with Glenn Meyer on gold and silver.

You must hold it in your hands. Buying gold (or silver) under an ETF means you own a piece of paper. The ETFs are oversold. In the wake of Hurricane Sandy, PAMP USA declared force majeure and paid out cash to everyone who wanted their physical metal. Ditto with a Swiss holding firm of allocated metal. What Ann Barnhardt says is true: If you can't stand in front of it with your assault rifle, you don't own it.

BTW, neither gold nor silver are investments. Investments grow and if precious metals increase in value, it's actually a reflection of the devaluation of the currency. What are gold and silver then? Hedges against the devaluation of the currency. Remember that Quantitative Easing increases the supply of currency on the Fed Res books. Without a corresponding increase in goods, you have more dollars chasing fewer goods. Inflation follows. Here's a good website with many video presentations on the subject of currency and precious metals: http://hiddensecretsofmoney.com/

In a sense buying something tangible like a gun is better than holding onto devaluing dollars. However, there are things that will increase in value much faster. Investor Jim Rodgers suggested that young folks get into farming.

One last thing about investing. Look into PFG Best and MF Global (John Corzine). Clients lost their allocated funds thanks to the brokerage agreement that allowed those firms to rehypothecate (fancy way of saying legalized stealing) their assets. Yours today, theirs tomorrow to pay their debt. No one went to prison for it either.
 
In today's market, what would you buy at but in prices??
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Here are some modern guns that I think will some day be quite valuable - either on the open market or black market:

SCAR-17
Tavor
Polytech M14s
CZ75B - Stainless (mat and polished) or blued
Grand Power K100
Hi-Power C-Series (excellent condition with a price point of about $800 - $900)
S&W 627's with the shorter barrel (8-shot 357)....if you can find one for under $1,000
Korth revolvers
Boberg XR9S in Platinum or all black
Sturmgewehr 22's from GSG -(I really need to get myself one of those!)

Fostech Bumpski AR and AK stocks;
XS 50 round drums

Oh, and good quality silnencers are relatively cheap investments - You never know how long your elite rulers will let Class 3 Mfg's keep making those.
 
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^^^ In addition to Skans...

Molot VEPR 7.62x54R
20rd mags for same
Less common Beretta Series 70 and Series 81 pistol variants
 
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