Gun Safe Questions
- Thread starter Dah Mastah
- Start date
Vanguard.45
New member
Response to Dah Mastah
Rancor: bitter deep-seated ill will
I would say that to characterize my comments as deep-seated would be accurate, as my devotion to the Constitution and to individual liberty in general are felt deeply.
To characterize my comments as reflecting bitter, ill will would be inaccurate if you mean that will was directed at you personally. I just feel that your statement was absurd.
To support the Democrat Party for whatever else they represent is your freedom, but to claim that you can support the Democrats and not be issuing a blow to the guarantees of the 2nd Amendment is to either a) not be paying attention for the last few decades, or b) choose to ignore the reality of their policies concerning the 2nd Amendment. Hell, Dah Mastah, you live in a Democrat run district. Can you carry a handgun??? NO!
And please, feel free to respond to each of my assertions. I would enjoy hearing the enlightened musings of a Democrat who supported Kerry (who, in turn, is supported financially by a pair of Republicans- Teresa and her late husband).
Vanguard.45
Rancor: bitter deep-seated ill will
I would say that to characterize my comments as deep-seated would be accurate, as my devotion to the Constitution and to individual liberty in general are felt deeply.
To characterize my comments as reflecting bitter, ill will would be inaccurate if you mean that will was directed at you personally. I just feel that your statement was absurd.
To support the Democrat Party for whatever else they represent is your freedom, but to claim that you can support the Democrats and not be issuing a blow to the guarantees of the 2nd Amendment is to either a) not be paying attention for the last few decades, or b) choose to ignore the reality of their policies concerning the 2nd Amendment. Hell, Dah Mastah, you live in a Democrat run district. Can you carry a handgun??? NO!
And please, feel free to respond to each of my assertions. I would enjoy hearing the enlightened musings of a Democrat who supported Kerry (who, in turn, is supported financially by a pair of Republicans- Teresa and her late husband).
Vanguard.45
Dah Mastah
Inactive
Sidebar for our Mississippi friend . . .
Vanguard .45, I thought my last post made it clear that I am not a one-issue voter. Firearms are not my electoral litmus test. It is possible to be a good Democrat who wants to own guns. I know several.
Per your request, my response to each of your assertions:
a) Washington, DC is part of America. In fact, it's the capital. Check out a map.
b) Don't tell me you speak for all Americans with your royal "we."
c) I am not sure you know what totalitarian means. According to my Websters, totalitarian is defined as "a political regime based on the subordination of the individual to the state and strict control of all aspects of life." Firearms possession is merely one aspect of life. I also suspect you have never been to your nation's capital. It would be like me criticizing Tupelo, Mississippi, of which I have never been. I am sure it is lovely.
d) Congress, just a couple of months ago, was discussing repealing the handgun ban in DC. In fact, the Republican led Congress has a lot of power of DC given that it is the Federal District. Check the U.S. Constitution on that one (it contains more than just the Second Amendment).
e) DC allows possession of firearms. I have a Mossberg 590 12 guage shotgun, which according to this forum is one of the most lethal devices at close range. Also, DC is not a "cesspool of crime." In fact, the DC populace is one of the most educated in America -- check your census. Also, it's our nation's capital, so show some respect.
f) See my introductory remark. Also, one can own a firearm in DC (see e)).
I hope this helps you.
Vanguard .45, I thought my last post made it clear that I am not a one-issue voter. Firearms are not my electoral litmus test. It is possible to be a good Democrat who wants to own guns. I know several.
Per your request, my response to each of your assertions:
a) Washington, DC is part of America. In fact, it's the capital. Check out a map.
b) Don't tell me you speak for all Americans with your royal "we."
c) I am not sure you know what totalitarian means. According to my Websters, totalitarian is defined as "a political regime based on the subordination of the individual to the state and strict control of all aspects of life." Firearms possession is merely one aspect of life. I also suspect you have never been to your nation's capital. It would be like me criticizing Tupelo, Mississippi, of which I have never been. I am sure it is lovely.
d) Congress, just a couple of months ago, was discussing repealing the handgun ban in DC. In fact, the Republican led Congress has a lot of power of DC given that it is the Federal District. Check the U.S. Constitution on that one (it contains more than just the Second Amendment).
e) DC allows possession of firearms. I have a Mossberg 590 12 guage shotgun, which according to this forum is one of the most lethal devices at close range. Also, DC is not a "cesspool of crime." In fact, the DC populace is one of the most educated in America -- check your census. Also, it's our nation's capital, so show some respect.
f) See my introductory remark. Also, one can own a firearm in DC (see e)).
I hope this helps you.
Dah Mastah
Inactive
AUG, argh! Check your facts. The Washington DC metropolitan area is the fourth highest ranked city for advanced degrees by Forbes magazine. DC is the number one ranked city for percentage of residents with bachelors degrees.
Plus, my handle is "Dah Mastah," not "Da Masta." Learn how to read before slamming someone else's "educational level."
Finally, this post is about GUN SAFES! If you do not have anything to offer about gun safes, then save it for your regular call-in to your local radio station.
Plus, my handle is "Dah Mastah," not "Da Masta." Learn how to read before slamming someone else's "educational level."
Finally, this post is about GUN SAFES! If you do not have anything to offer about gun safes, then save it for your regular call-in to your local radio station.
Vanguard.45
New member
To "Dah Mastah"
In a word- "enlightened."
First of all, I no longer live in Mississippi.
Second, I both have trained in and will be working in DC for a number of years and have and will see parts of DC that you would not be allowed to see (unless, of course, you are a member of the Executive Branch of government or one assigned to provide assistance to them).
Third, from your postings about all of the "advanced degrees" in DC, I would assume that the new slogan there would be "Guns don't kill people, advanced degrees do." Also, how is it that all of you "highly edu-ma-cated" folks there in DC elected Marion Berry as your mayor. Explain that one to me from your tower in the sky!!!???? I guess DC is proof that there is a difference between "book sense" and "common sense." And hell, I guess DC would be a good place to do some robbin' and killin'- all those unarmed folks with all of those advanced degrees walkin' around.
Fourth, when I say that DC is no longer a part of America, of course I do not mean that it doesn't any longer share political affiliation with the United States. Rather, I mean that it no longer reflects the freedoms and liberties I (and the royal "we" that kicked your minority party's a$$ in the last several elections) associate with the America our Founding Fathers had in mind when they picked up their guns and fought to free the colonies from British rule. Face it, the Dems views about a great many things is only supported by the great population centers where there is a large class of uneducated people your party has made dependent on the government's handouts (or did you not see the "red/blue" maps during the last presidential election or even the one before that?). I scold the Republicans for not reversing the dependence caused by the evils of welfare and "money for having babies" that have crippled various minority groups in the once-great cities of this land. Unfortunately, politicians are just that- politicians.
And finally, I hope you never need to use a gun to protect yourself. If that need ever arises, though, I hope you have quick access to something like a shotgun or rifle or handgun. Unfortunately, if someone is there meaning you harm, there may not be enough time to go open a safe. That is what we call a "best-case" scenario. I (and the royal "we") tend to like to be prepared for those times we call a "worst-case" scenario. I hope you are once again afforded the freedom to keep AND BEAR arms in the great District of Columbia.
Trust me, though, it will not be the Dems leading you in that direction.
Vanguard.45
In a word- "enlightened."
First of all, I no longer live in Mississippi.
Second, I both have trained in and will be working in DC for a number of years and have and will see parts of DC that you would not be allowed to see (unless, of course, you are a member of the Executive Branch of government or one assigned to provide assistance to them).
Third, from your postings about all of the "advanced degrees" in DC, I would assume that the new slogan there would be "Guns don't kill people, advanced degrees do." Also, how is it that all of you "highly edu-ma-cated" folks there in DC elected Marion Berry as your mayor. Explain that one to me from your tower in the sky!!!???? I guess DC is proof that there is a difference between "book sense" and "common sense." And hell, I guess DC would be a good place to do some robbin' and killin'- all those unarmed folks with all of those advanced degrees walkin' around.
Fourth, when I say that DC is no longer a part of America, of course I do not mean that it doesn't any longer share political affiliation with the United States. Rather, I mean that it no longer reflects the freedoms and liberties I (and the royal "we" that kicked your minority party's a$$ in the last several elections) associate with the America our Founding Fathers had in mind when they picked up their guns and fought to free the colonies from British rule. Face it, the Dems views about a great many things is only supported by the great population centers where there is a large class of uneducated people your party has made dependent on the government's handouts (or did you not see the "red/blue" maps during the last presidential election or even the one before that?). I scold the Republicans for not reversing the dependence caused by the evils of welfare and "money for having babies" that have crippled various minority groups in the once-great cities of this land. Unfortunately, politicians are just that- politicians.
And finally, I hope you never need to use a gun to protect yourself. If that need ever arises, though, I hope you have quick access to something like a shotgun or rifle or handgun. Unfortunately, if someone is there meaning you harm, there may not be enough time to go open a safe. That is what we call a "best-case" scenario. I (and the royal "we") tend to like to be prepared for those times we call a "worst-case" scenario. I hope you are once again afforded the freedom to keep AND BEAR arms in the great District of Columbia.
Trust me, though, it will not be the Dems leading you in that direction.
Vanguard.45
leadcounsel
Moderator
Gun safes and political comment on crime
First, check out www.sturdysafe.com for steel and fireproof safes. They are excellent and reasonably priced.
As for DC, I tend to agree that the politics of DC are awash with corruption and foolishness and are generally quite left of center.
DC, ironically, serves as an example of one of the least "free" places in the nation. I say this because it offers about as strict of laws (which, by the way, don't work) against firearm ownership and carrying in the nation. Last I checked, the 2nd Amendment is alive and well nearly everywhere but DC (rivaled only by the other blue states NY and CA).
As examples of why gun laws fail to work and why they should be repealed, DC regularly has one of the top, and sometimes the top, murder rates from handguns in the nation with nearly 1 per day some years. For a state with "no handguns" that is a startling statistic. Conversely, I live in Colorado, where CCWs are "shall issue" to nonfelon adults and open carry is allowed, and the only restrictions on handguns and longguns are federal restrictions. Meanwhile, Columbine aside, we rarely have shootings. I haven't looked into it, but I'd say we average about 1 per week non police officer shooting. For a state where probably 75% of households have guns of some sort, that's a very small number of shootings. DC, NY, and CA could learn from the 40+ RED states.
First, check out www.sturdysafe.com for steel and fireproof safes. They are excellent and reasonably priced.
As for DC, I tend to agree that the politics of DC are awash with corruption and foolishness and are generally quite left of center.
DC, ironically, serves as an example of one of the least "free" places in the nation. I say this because it offers about as strict of laws (which, by the way, don't work) against firearm ownership and carrying in the nation. Last I checked, the 2nd Amendment is alive and well nearly everywhere but DC (rivaled only by the other blue states NY and CA).
As examples of why gun laws fail to work and why they should be repealed, DC regularly has one of the top, and sometimes the top, murder rates from handguns in the nation with nearly 1 per day some years. For a state with "no handguns" that is a startling statistic. Conversely, I live in Colorado, where CCWs are "shall issue" to nonfelon adults and open carry is allowed, and the only restrictions on handguns and longguns are federal restrictions. Meanwhile, Columbine aside, we rarely have shootings. I haven't looked into it, but I'd say we average about 1 per week non police officer shooting. For a state where probably 75% of households have guns of some sort, that's a very small number of shootings. DC, NY, and CA could learn from the 40+ RED states.
Better check carefully. Last I remember even an assembled shotgun was not allowed in good ol' DC. The police will provide all the protection you need. The mayor says so. :barf:
Norther Virginia and the Maryland suburbs are included in the "Washington DC metropolitan area". The money (and the degrees) are in these locations.
Norther Virginia and the Maryland suburbs are included in the "Washington DC metropolitan area". The money (and the degrees) are in these locations.