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reinert

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Hello Forum Folks,

I just heard Bill O'Reilly say on the Factor tonight that 69% of Americans support gun registration. Is this right? Now, if he's talking about back ground checks and filling out the yellow paper, I'd probably believe that. But, as far as I remember, filling out the yellow paper (and how that's handled) and actual gun registration would be two different things altogether, no?

Really? No, O'Reilly... is Bill right? REGISTRATION? 69%? Please let me know the facts, even if they are stubborn things.

Among the concerned these days,

reinert

P.S. My hearing isn't the best these days either, so, maybe I heard Bill wrong. Hope so.
 
They also say the majority supports AWB also. were you polled? i know i was not. People can poll specific groups in certain places known for their support of different things to obtain the results they want, and then portray these "results" as the true oponions of the general public. That is what i believe is happening.
 
72% of all statistics found on the internet are entirely fictitious.



I don't think there's any way that 69% of the American public supports registration. Whether 69% of those Americans polled support it may be a different question, but then I have to question how people were chosen for polling. Was it because they logged into the Brady Campaign website, for example?
 
72% of all statistics found on the internet are entirely fictitious.
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Yep. Just like the 78% of Mexican crime guns that come from the US, the fact that I'm 43 times more likely to be the victim of a shooting if I keep a gun in the home, and the fact that 40% of gun sales are unregistered.

There are three types of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics.
 
Dear Forum,

I didn't personally get polled by any media folks, but I try to stay on top of things pertaining to 2nd amendment issues as best I can (much thanks and kudos to this forum). I really didn't/don't believe the 69% approval for registration posed as a fact on the Factor, but I did hear Mr. Bill say that HE did believe in gun registration. Yeah, "just looking out for the folks." Most certainly, everyone's allowed their own opinion, just as we're certainly allowed to disagree, as I do, on the registration concern.

reinert
 
Well we know that the anti gun establishments propaganda has had an effect on opinions. We see that in the polls. They are quite clever in their propaganda. IDK who did this particular poll or even if the poll was accurately portrayed on fox news. Doubtful as they are one of the biggest misinformation machines among an entire business of misinformation.

I have seen legitimate polls though that show us on the losing side of the gun control argument. Thankfully we still have the constitution on our side and we do not have mob rule.

We just need to stay on top of our legislators because in the current climate we are not going to win hearts and minds... Just one old sailors opinion
 
No way do I believe that 69% of american's think a gun registry is a good thing. I know I would not ever register any of my gun's.
 
I tried to see if a certain video clip was already posted somewhere here on the forum, but I got a no match result on the forum's search engine. This video, on youtube, needs to be seen by all responsible, American citizen gun owners. And I'm sure many, if not most of you, have already seen it. If not, link to it through this web address: www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhfItX8m8ro

If you can't get through on the address I gave here, just google; "bill stevens sandy hook." A REAL VOICE for our gun issues these days. It's just too bad that there's too much common sense expressed by Mr. Stevens, as those two words (C.S.) have been tossed out the window long ago regarding our political system (let alone the media...).

Mr. Stevens' presentation is less than 3 minutes long, but should play forever as "spot-on" for our 2nd amendment RIGHTS.

reinert
 
Having watched O'Reilly on and off for years, I've noticed that when it comes to firearms, he's more often than not woefully misinformed. I would not be surprised to learn that he does not know the difference between a NICS check and registration and simply assumes that one equates to the other. While he often brings up valid points on other issues, I take most, if not all, of what Bill O'Reilly says about guns and the Second Amendment as worth a large grain of salt.
 
O'Reilly may often be misinformed, but he never lacks the conviction that he is right.

This can be a serious handicap.

I wonder if he thinks we should have a falafel registry...
 
Canada cut registration

In 2012 the canadian Government (Conservative Party) lived up to it's
promise and dismantalled the long gun registry.
It had been in place or 16 years and cost taxpayers 1 BILLION dollars. The
total number of guns registered was 7 million.
The number of crimes committed with rifle and shotguns has always been low.
So the government decided to stop wasting money on this Noble experiment.

However - Handguns are still registered and their use is restricted to use at a approved gun club only.

This is the first time in 50 years where gun control was rolled back in Canada!!

Tell your Pro Registration people that CANADA CUT BACK GUN REGISTRATION
 
And a recent poll of gun owners indicated that 65 percent of gun owners say they would not register their guns, which could be consistent with O'Rielly's reported poll and is consistent with the experience in Canada, which would mean the registration would do nothing except make criminals of 90 million (give or take a few million) Americans. Yep, sounds like a brilliant idea if your goal is to make criminals of your average gun owner. First threaten to ban a lot of guns and threaten confiscation in CA where 10 percent of the population resides to scare the hell out of people who have seen registration lead to confiscation in England and Australia already, then when you have ensured that most won't register their guns, pass a law requiring registration and viola most gun owners are criminals. Sounds like a win win for gun controllers.
 
It all depends on how the question was asked.
Example:
Are you in favor of all gun sales being subject to a backgound check even if that ment regeristering firearms?
I'm guessing 72% of people would say yes.
Are you in favor of gun registration so the government can confiscate guns in the future?
I'd quessing that 90% of people would say no.
FYI - lots of my non-gun owning friends think that all guns are registered now. It's often difficult to explain that they are not registered. Many also think that is easy for the government to track gun ownership. They don't understand the FFL sales record system or the difficulty in tracking a gun sold 20 years ago.
 
I've had some of the same experience as dlb. I just ask them 'What's this registry you're talking about? Explain it to me'

ETA: Although I think here in NJ there is some registry, at least at the local level, on handguns. We need a permit to purchase a handgun, and it's a 4-part carbon copy form. At least one of the copies gets sent to the local PD. (I'll have to check my paper work later when I get a chance).
 
Minister of Propaganda said something about lies. I think our opponents learned it well.

Statistics may be adjusted by how the question was asked. It could be based on a broad interpretation of the present laws. "Do you support the present gun laws?" "Do you support the completion of the yellow 4473 form?"
 
Most people only know what they have been told. Since what they have been told is nothing but lies, what else would you expect from them?
 
Yea, I was watching when he said that and I thought there is no way in Heck that that many people favor gun registration. Someone was smoking or eating some good stuff....:mad:
 
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