Gun Purchase DELAYED!?

Theres been numerous posts regarding delays and security clearance. Someone else who has inside knowledge please chime in here, but from what I've heard the NICS doesn't have access to whatever high level security clearance you may have, so I don't think that has anything to do with it.

At the end of the day, I think its just an issue of similar name/ssn, or its a first purchase. My first transfer was delayed, but every one since then has been approved almost immediately, and my father and I share a first and last name. (Him with a felony conviction and me without)
 
"Clearly you haven't purchased a gun in Alaska from a dealer, or you haven't understood what was going on when you did"
Your name is musher. So I am going to ASSUME you are from Alaska. I will just say this, obviously you have not bought a gun in AK because if you had you would know that its takes 10 minutes AT MOST. I have bought multiple guns from DEALERS and it has never taken for than 10 minutes. Maybe the same rules and regulations are here, but I have never heard of anyone with a CLEAN record taking any more than 1 hour to get a gun.

"Uh.......they ain't calling the local PD. Alaska Brady checks are run by the FBI NICS....not your local PD."
No sir. IF you are in Anchorage they call APD, if you are anywhere else they call the local state trooper station. I have friends with APD and family with the Alaska State Troopers.
http://justice.uaa.alaska.edu/forum/16/1spring1999/a_brady.html
 
1911Alaska No sir. IF you are in Anchorage they call APD, if you are anywhere else they call the local state trooper station. I have friends with APD and family with the Alaska State Troopers.
http://justice.uaa.alaska.edu/forum/...9/a_brady.html

Someone is pullining your leg or they are completely ignorant of how the Brady law is implemented in Alaska.

Linking to a thirteen year old law student term paper? Heck, that paper makes no mention of NICS...........because it was written BEFORE FBI NICS was established in late 1998.

Feel free to call your local gun dealer and ask him who he calls. If he isn't calling the FBI NICS he isnt going to be in business very long.
If you still doubt what I've written, here it is straight from ATF:
http://www.atf.gov/press/releases/1998/10/103098-openletter-ffl-alaska-brady-law.html

Department of the Treasury
Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms
Assistant Director
Washington, DC 20226

October 30, 1998

Open Letter to All Alaska Federal Firearms Licensees
Permanent Provisions of the Brady Law
The purpose of this letter is to advise you of your responsibilities under the permanent provisions of the Brady law, 18 U.S.C. § 922(t). On November 30, 1998, the interim provisions of the Brady law will cease to apply, and the permanent provisions of the Brady law will take effect.

The permanent provisions of the Brady law provide for the establishment of a national instant criminal background check system (NICS) that licensees must contact before transferring any firearm to unlicensed individuals. While the interim provisions apply only to handguns, the permanent provisions of Brady will apply to all firearms. In addition, under permanent Brady there will no longer be an exemption for the redemption of a firearm from pawn.

Notification from the Attorney General
On October 30, 1998, the Department of Justice published a final rule in the Federal Register, announcing the establishment of the NICS as of October 31, 1998. Accordingly, licensees will be required to comply with permanent Brady as of November 30, 1998. Copies of the Justice Department’s final rule are available on DOJ’s Home Page on the Internet at http://www.fbi.gov/programs/nics/index.htm and DOJ is mailing copies of the final rule to licensees.

Initiation of NICS Checks
To request a background check for any firearm transaction you must contact the Federal Bureau of Investigation’s NICS Operations Center by dialing 1-877-FBI-NICS (1-877-324-6427). Your call will be answered by an automated menu that allows you to select from several customer services including initiating a NICS background check.

Transfers Subject to NICS Check Requirement
As of November 30, 1998, you will be required to initiate a NICS check prior to transferring a firearm to anyone who is not a licensee. The following steps must be followed prior to transferring a firearm:

1.Have the transferee complete and sign ATF Form 4473, Firearms Transaction Record.
2.Verify the identity of the transferee through a Government-issued photo identification (for example, a driver’s license).
3.Contact NICS. You will get either a “proceed,” “denied” or “delayed” response from the system. If you get a “delayed” response and there is no additional response from the system, you may transfer the firearm after three business days have elapsed. Of course, you must still comply with any waiting period requirements under State law.
4.If you have initiated a NICS check for a proposed firearms transaction, but the transfer of the firearm is not completed, you must retain the Form 4473 in your records for a period of not less than 5 years. If the transfer is completed, the Form 4473 must be retained for at least 20 years.
Alternatives to a NICS Check
The Brady law provides that certain permits may qualify as alternatives to a NICS check. The concealed weapons permit issued in your State qualified as an alternative to a background check under the interim provisions of Brady and will continue to qualify as an alternative to the NICS check required by permanent Brady. Of course all such transactions must still comply with State law.

If you transfer a firearm to an unlicensed person pursuant to this permit alternative, you must comply with the following requirements:

1.Have the transferee complete and sign ATF Form 4473, Firearms Transaction Record.
2.Verify the identity of the transferee through a Government-issued photo identification (for example, a driver’s license).
3.Verify that the permit was issued within the past 5 years by the State in which the transfer is to occur, and that the permit has not expired under State law.
4.Either retain a copy of the transferee’s permit and attach it to the Form 4473, or record on the Form 4473 any identifying number from the permit, the date of issuance, and the expiration date of the permit.
Final Regulations and Forms 4473
On October 29, 1998, ATF published final regulations implementing the permanent provisions of the Brady law. ATF has also modified ATF Form 4473, Firearms Transaction Record, to reflect the changes in the background check system. A copy of these regulations and a small supply of Forms 4473 will be mailed to each licensee under separate cover before November 30, 1998.

Questions
If you have any questions, please contact your local ATF office. Questions regarding NICS operational issues should be directed to the FBI at 1-877-444-6427.

Jimmy Wooten
Assistant Director
Firearms, Explosives and Arson




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I have had a carry permit for years. It eliminated waiting periods in FL, then GA, and now MO. I can buy and take home same day.

However, in all those states, the dealer still had to make the phone call.
 
However, in all those states, the dealer still had to make the phone call.
In Georgia, the NICS check is not required if you have the carry license. The 4473 must be filled out as per federal law, but no phone call is necessary.
 
I stand corrected about GA... though I had thought the check had been run, I won't argue with TS. The call was definitely made in front of me at my MO LGS this past Saturday, when I picked up my TALO BirdsHead New Vaquero.
 
Well the approval came through yesterday. My FFL brought into this world a beautiful Ruger revolver, weighing in at around 40 ounces. I also took the advice of my fellow zonies on here and my CCW application is on it's way.
 
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