Gun placement while sleeping

Thanks for the laughs guys.... I believe that dogs are a great deterent for thieves. Our German Shepard and German Shorthair Pointer are awesome guard dogs. I feel very safe having them around. Plus, they are great with the kids. As for the Basset, he's only viscious when attacking loaves of bread, which he can get off the back of the counter!

Here's what they look like when they are not playing:

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Seriosly!?

Condition 1 in a shoulder holster strapped to your body. Learn to get over the discomfort if you feel the need to sleep with a locked and loaded weapon. After wearing it long enough when you go beddyby you will know its exact location like you know the position of your hand or any other part of your body. A big plus reaching for it out of a sound sleep. By the time you have it in your mit you should also be locked and loaded.
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Do you live in Russia? :D Seriously though, and I dont mean to pry, but why whould you go to bed with a locked and loaded weapon strapped to your body? I can only think of one other person that does the same...

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In terms of being an average Joe civilian, do we really need to sleep with guns? Do we really need to carry guns? Do we really need to have guns?

In my civilian experiences, the answer is no, we dont really need any of this stuff. There has not been an incident at my house, or my neighbor's house or anywhere in the neighborhood, ever. I do travel around a lot and I really havent come upon one incident where there was a need to pull a gun.

There have been some hostile situations in my life where if I did pull a gun then it would have probably made things a lot worse.

However, the need to carry guns and have them by the bedside is the same as the need for nuclear weapons. In America, a burglar is deterred by the knowledge that some people might have guns by their bedside. Violence on the streets is deterred by the knowledge that some people might be carrying guns.

The necessity to carry and have guns is really for the deterence of criminal action. There are those rare times, however, when its more then just deterence, but the purpose behind carrying and having is to have that deterence.

I believe every homeowner should at least have a .38 revolver at the bare minimum. If it was known that everyone had a pistol in their house, then think of the amount of burglaries that would be reduced or the amount of at home violence that would be reduced.

I sure would not go knocking on someone's door in a strange neighborhood if I knew that there were very liberal gun laws and that most everyone had one...

If everyone carried a pistol on the street, Im willing to bet that there would a great reduction in overall crime. If I were a police officer, I would feel more comfortable knowing that everyone is armed around me.
 
i have several myself

my .45 is close by where i sleep but i have to be fully awake to get it, my raging bull is loaded and ready but locked in a pistol carry case , but quickly accessible, upstairs in the spare bedroom i have a 870 rem 20 gauge locked and loadednear the hallway, plus i have two dogs that bark at any movement in the neighborhoodclose to the house , forgot about Duke the Neighbors Lab , No body walks the street late without everybody knowing it
 
I have a kid, but she is too young to be able to do anything with a pistol, yet. Still, I do enough stuff in my sleep (sleep walking, waking up in another room not knowing why I am there or what I am doing) that I keep my pistol in a place that requires quite a few conscious efforts to get it out and ready. It probably wouldn't be the quickest to get out if somebody were already in my room, but I think I would probably have enough time if I heard somebody trying to get into the house.

Besides, knowing myself, the chances are higher that I would personally hurt somebody by having a gun either on my person or close enough that I could do something with it without fully waking up first.

As a side note, I didn't always sleep walk, it just started suddenly one day, for no known reason. You never know when the same might happen to you...
 
I have mine in a GunVault safe bolted to my nightstand. I open the safe at night and pull the gun out enough to make an easy reach for grip. I have it loaded, but nothing in the chamber. The safe is closed during the day.

There's also a 12ga shotgun under the bed.
 
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Condition 1 in a shoulder holster strapped to your body. Learn to get over the discomfort if you feel the need to sleep with a locked and loaded weapon. After wearing it long enough when you go beddyby you will know its exact location like you know the position of your hand or any other part of your body. A big plus reaching for it out of a sound sleep. By the time you have it in your mit you should also be locked and loaded."

I would like to hear more about this. In my situation and the layout of my home this is the only solution which feels safe to me. I am a total newbie though, and want to hear as much about this solution as possible.

I also unfortunately know that sometimes, circumstances do merit measures that might seem extreme to someone who isn't being hunted.
 
In terms of being an average Joe civilian, do we really need to sleep with guns? Do we really need to carry guns? Do we really need to have guns?

In my civilian experiences, the answer is no, we dont really need any of this stuff. There has not been an incident at my house, or my neighbor's house or anywhere in the neighborhood, ever. I do travel around a lot and I really havent come upon one incident where there was a need to pull a gun.

There have been some hostile situations in my life where if I did pull a gun then it would have probably made things a lot worse.

However, the need to carry guns and have them by the bedside is the same as the need for nuclear weapons. In America, a burglar is deterred by the knowledge that some people might have guns by their bedside. Violence on the streets is deterred by the knowledge that some people might be carrying guns.

The necessity to carry and have guns is really for the deterence of criminal action. There are those rare times, however, when its more then just deterence, but the purpose behind carrying and having is to have that deterence.

I believe every homeowner should at least have a .38 revolver at the bare minimum. If it was known that everyone had a pistol in their house, then think of the amount of burglaries that would be reduced or the amount of at home violence that would be reduced.

I sure would not go knocking on someone's door in a strange neighborhood if I knew that there were very liberal gun laws and that most everyone had one...

If everyone carried a pistol on the street, Im willing to bet that there would a great reduction in overall crime. If I were a police officer, I would feel more comfortable knowing that everyone is armed around me.
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I'm sorry, but I'm not quite sure I follow or agree with your logic. I'm not sure where you live, but it must be some crime free utopia. Crimes do occur where most of us live. Check your local newspaper if you don't believe me. This is despite the fact that there are many states that allow for concealed carry. If your logic held true, there would be no burgleries or crimes in general.

While it is my sincere hope I never have to use a gun to defend myself (and I'm sure most members on this forum feel that way) I am not naive enough to believe that I will never be the target of a criminal. I have been burglerized once and had my car broken into once. Had I or my wife been home and suprised the burgler, there could have been a confrontation, especially if they were armed.

You are assuming that most burglers are not armed and only want to steal your stuf and leave. What about the increase in home invasions? What about rapists? Do you think the victims would be better off unarmed? While you can say that the percentage chance of being a victim are still relatively low (check the FBI crime statistics), what about when your number comes up? Do you prefer to be a helpless victim? I don't believe that any of the members on this forum are willing to just be helpless victims.

As for having gun in every home and everyone carry a pistol, that is delusional. Simply having a gun does not mean you know how to use it. What would keep criminals from just shooting people in the back and then robbing them? I suggest that you do some research on crimes in less developed countries. I went to Caracas, Venezuela for business quite a few years back. Car jackings there typically play out as follows... The car jacker shoots you while you are at a stop light, drags your body our of the car, and then drives off. None of that "polite" get the bleep put of the car or "simple" pistol whip before driving off.

Believe what you want, but you have a "victim" mindset right now. I feel that I have the duty to protect my loved ones and I work hard for what I have. I will not simply "roll over" to any criminal and I will be ready and able to defend myself and my loved ones. As unlikely as it is, people still "win the lottery".
 
I'd still like to hear more about the mechanics of sleeping with guns, what kind of holster do you sleep in, do you use a fanny pack, anyone?
 
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There have been some hostile situations in my life where if I did pull a gun then it would have probably made things a lot worse.
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Count your blessing that you have not yet experienced a hostile (life-threatening) situation where pulling a gun would probably have made things a lot better. Chances are very good that you will at least once in your life.

Will you be ready...and equipped...for it?

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Dare I say it: Under the pillow

A Glock is not going to go off unless you pull the trigger, nor is a DA revolver.

Has anyone heard of a negligent discharge associated with having a gun in the bed? Or of a Glock without a finger?

I don't sleep with a gun in my room, usually. On the road, I usually put it into the bedside table, unless it's a skeezy place, in which case it goes under the pillow.

I also keep my keys and wallet with the gun so I don't forget it...and I never leave it in the room, unless there's a safe.
 
3 guns...but mostly for my pleasure.

I sleep with a loaded 38 snubby in a holster under the mattress...and a 38 4" in a holster under the bed...not that I might need it, but it's my favorite pistol and I often wear it around the house unloaded. The 3rd is a 9mm on the floor with full clip but nothing in the chamber...again...it's a play gun for me to fool around with, after I remove the loaded clip and insert an empty. I practice some live, but a lot of dry shooting as well.

I do have a gun safe and probably will put my play things away with the exception of the 38 under the mattress on my side.

I live in an exceptionally safe neighborhood...I think...and still have grown kids at home (2), my wife works night even when off goes and comes at odd hours. And my 20 year old's girlfriend, another night worker, comes over at odd hours. Most often I never know she's in the house. And the guys coming soon to install a new shower...will probably show up early in the morning when I may still be asleep. But noises and even the presence of strangers never alarm me to the point of picking up a gun...I most often answer the door with just me as I is. (That could be frightening enough!)

I don't do concealed carry, as, so far there is no need for it. Going for a gun for noises in the house would be a catastrophe...so I just pray and hope to avoid anything remotely threatening...but I can respond if need be.

I like guns...but more importantly I do believe that society could quickly get a whole lot shakier than it is...and then, guns might be much more important, as heavy duty screens and new set of locks etc.

I would like to avoid all of that...and pray that it not happen on my watch...but from what I see...it could.
 
I couldn't imagine sleeping without my Glock within arms reach. It's either under the pillow or next to me in bed. The wife thinks I'm nuts.

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R1145 in answer to your question we investigated a case where an old guy heard a bump in the night pulled his gun out saw movement at the foot of his bed and shot his toe.

My Sig is on the headboard where both I or my wife can reach it My S&W 340PD is standing up in the partialy open drawer by my bed Both with Crimson Trace Lasers. When I get up they go in my holster and pocket.

I haven't been without a gun since 1968 except on planes and then it was in my checked luggage.
 
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Years ago I heard the most common place to look for a weapon was the night stand, it appear that it is still true today.

I think it was an NRA video, not sure, but they recommended placing the gun on the floor next to the bed. Then placing a magazine or book over top of it. That way it looked natural, and if a criminal did manage to sneak in he may not find it. Also it allowed you to roll out of bed onto the floor where your gun would be waiting, and provide a little cover from an attacker. This would ensure you were awake and not have a ND on a loved one.

Made good sense to me. I personally have a couple locked in an electronic safe. as I have children in the house. We have our house in a "good" area, but also have it lit up and doors closed and locked with deadbolts. Many of our neighbors leave their garage doors wide open, so am thinking the targets would be them.

I also have an 80 lb German Shepherd, and a 30 lb noisey mutt for my high tech alarm system.

Dogs are great early warning systems!
 
Dogs are great early warning systems!
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Dogs make good backup systems. Dogs are as fallible as we are.

I have sneaked into my own home. Specifically to test my dogs. I was amazed to find that on numerous occasions I was able to make it through my entire home all the way to my bedroom only to find my dog soundly asleep, snoring loud enough to wake the dead....whereupon I woke them with a royal start.

It is why I went ahead and installed a electronic alarm system.
 
I'm with Creature re dogs. Much as I do feel protected by mine, esp. from squirrels and cats and other dogs passing by, I know that she can have selective hearing, and that if I was to be targeted it wouldn't take a brain surgeon to neutralize her.

Even though she is never outside unsupervised, ie only on leash, it would not be difficult to place poisoned meat in her path, or to get into the house and make peace with her.

The fact that she looks fierce and will bite frightens people, which is useful...but if money wasn't an issue I'd help her out with a fence for the yard and some geese to wake her up. And if she really can't be roused to get to the door when I am trying to enter, what am I going to do? Call the cops only to find she was accidently shut in a room somewhere?
 
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