More nonsense from Mayor Bloomberg !! www.nydailynews.com/front/story/424095p-357775c.html 
Gun Paint - Politics as usual
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While I certainly don't like the part about one gun every three months in the legislation, what would be the purpose of making a real gun look like a toy? What good can you really achieve by doing so? Do the kits make them look specifically like play toys, or are they actually for, say, adding camo coloring to rifles and such for hunters? Having never seen the kits myself, I'm confused about the intended purpose of these products. Still, it really is a thinly veiled attempt at political gain.
Not sure what having gun criminals register is going to accomplish. They're already felons, if they get caught with a gun it's major time anyway. What's registering them going to do?
Gun dealers inventoring their weapons twice a year? Don't they do that anyway? Or is it following up on and recording the ownership of weapons already sold? I would think a gun store should know what guns they have in the store anyway, if for nothing else, than to know what is missing in the case of a burglary.
I suspect I'm not fully understanding the true nature of the legislation being presented.
Not sure what having gun criminals register is going to accomplish. They're already felons, if they get caught with a gun it's major time anyway. What's registering them going to do?
Gun dealers inventoring their weapons twice a year? Don't they do that anyway? Or is it following up on and recording the ownership of weapons already sold? I would think a gun store should know what guns they have in the store anyway, if for nothing else, than to know what is missing in the case of a burglary.
I suspect I'm not fully understanding the true nature of the legislation being presented.
johnsonrlp
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"We want to do everything we can to circle wagons around the problem of guns in our city and make sure we are on the cutting edge of preventing the flow of illegal guns into this city," Quinn said.
It's funny how illegal guns in NYC are legal pretty much everywhere else. It's also funny how much crime is in NYC compared to pretty much everywhere else. Imagine if all the legaly owned guns in Texas suddenly became legaly owned guns in NYC.
And who cares if I want a pink Model 70?
(not really, but who cares?)
It's funny how illegal guns in NYC are legal pretty much everywhere else. It's also funny how much crime is in NYC compared to pretty much everywhere else. Imagine if all the legaly owned guns in Texas suddenly became legaly owned guns in NYC.
And who cares if I want a pink Model 70?
(not really, but who cares?)Wyo Cowboy
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Bloomberg is a liberal republican, in a very liberal and self-centered city.
"Yes, Viginia, there are liberal republicans... they live in our thoughts and nightmares."
Bloomberg is just like everyother gun-phobic (sorry, Col. Cooper. Hoplophobe is just too complicated a word for most poeple). Instead of dealing with the reality that crime will always happen. That most criminals are criminals by choice. That criminals will use any weapon at hand to commit their crimes. That armed robbery, assault with a deadly weapon and murder each carry greater penalties than a violation of NY gun laws, yet those crimes still happen in large numbers. He and the Brady Bunch types would rather say (just like my brother) if we get rid of all of the guns all of our social problems will go away. Let's NOT deal with drugs, and drug gangs; lousy job opprotunities; single parent, or no parent, families; corruption at all levels; and on, and on, and on.
"Yes, Viginia, there are liberal republicans... they live in our thoughts and nightmares."
Bloomberg is just like everyother gun-phobic (sorry, Col. Cooper. Hoplophobe is just too complicated a word for most poeple). Instead of dealing with the reality that crime will always happen. That most criminals are criminals by choice. That criminals will use any weapon at hand to commit their crimes. That armed robbery, assault with a deadly weapon and murder each carry greater penalties than a violation of NY gun laws, yet those crimes still happen in large numbers. He and the Brady Bunch types would rather say (just like my brother) if we get rid of all of the guns all of our social problems will go away. Let's NOT deal with drugs, and drug gangs; lousy job opprotunities; single parent, or no parent, families; corruption at all levels; and on, and on, and on.
The sad part is that there parts of New York state which are absoultely beautiful, and many of those areas are inhabited by good folks who you'd enjoy having for shooting buddies or next door neighbors. Unfortunately their numbers seem too small to keep them from electing idiots for senators, and most of them (like me) wouldn't live in NYC if you furnished them housing and paid them good money to live in it.
My solution to the NYC problem is at avoid the place at all costs, and think kind thoughts about the good folks who haven't bailed out of there yet. Several years ago I hired a deputy who was a NYC transplant; tall, Italian guy with slicked-back hair, who looked like an extra from West Side Story and had an accent you could cut with a knife. He had been a cop for DMV (I guess they have cops just for the License Bureau Offices there?) It was a hoot watching him interact with these old Missouri boys- he had 'people' down real well. I used to drag ol' Tony out to the boondocks once in awhile and let him shoot up my good .44 ammo, with the old 4" Model 29 I've been dragging around for years.
It was a freedom he had never known in the Burroughs, and watching him eat it up was well worth the price of a few reloads. He turned out to be one of the better hires I ever made.
My solution to the NYC problem is at avoid the place at all costs, and think kind thoughts about the good folks who haven't bailed out of there yet. Several years ago I hired a deputy who was a NYC transplant; tall, Italian guy with slicked-back hair, who looked like an extra from West Side Story and had an accent you could cut with a knife. He had been a cop for DMV (I guess they have cops just for the License Bureau Offices there?) It was a hoot watching him interact with these old Missouri boys- he had 'people' down real well. I used to drag ol' Tony out to the boondocks once in awhile and let him shoot up my good .44 ammo, with the old 4" Model 29 I've been dragging around for years.
It was a freedom he had never known in the Burroughs, and watching him eat it up was well worth the price of a few reloads. He turned out to be one of the better hires I ever made.
Its a real problem
Its was a problem in Philly a few years back. I have seen a orange Tec-9 water gun and a real Tec-9 painted orange to look like the water gun and you could not tell the difference unless you were real close or touching them. This way your friendly neighborhood street gang can walk around with there guns in the open in the summertime.
I'm all for the 2nd admendment and the right to do what you want with you weapons, but if your painting your handgun to make it look like a toy, something is not right.
Its was a problem in Philly a few years back. I have seen a orange Tec-9 water gun and a real Tec-9 painted orange to look like the water gun and you could not tell the difference unless you were real close or touching them. This way your friendly neighborhood street gang can walk around with there guns in the open in the summertime.
I'm all for the 2nd admendment and the right to do what you want with you weapons, but if your painting your handgun to make it look like a toy, something is not right.
Wildalaska
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Actually the crime rate in NYC is lower than in many places that are more gun friendly.
WildbutwehavehadthatdebatebeforeAlaska
Uh huh, Because cops would stop harrasing people with guns, just in the off chance that they were toys, rather than start harrasing people with toys, in the off chance that they were guns, right.
If someone wants to paint their gun then power to them. My unckle's next-door neighbor painted one of his guns in his school colours,(orange mostly) because he and his freinds shoot it out at their private ranch during football season. I guess this shouldn't be allowed though because there is something obviously "wrong" with him wanting his gun painted.
Aside from individuals who want something unique, if there was legislature against this then that would also effect people who duracoat, polycoat, or refinish their guns in just about anything other than original blueing.
Why would anyone who claims to be for the 2nd, defend ANOTHER gun restriction?
I agree, but, is this based on precedence or is it just a pre-emptive attack on individual rights. Regardless, are we to think police are stupid enough to let someone point anything at them? Painting guns like "toys" is just like making toys (airsoft junk) look more and more realistic like guns, including making toy magazines appear to have brass ammo casing in them etc.
Because sex offenses are generally considered a much more heinous and traumatizing crime. While gun crimes are not necessarily lesser crimes, they aren't as personal in nature when it comes to the victim. For the most part. There are so many different crimes that can be committed with a gun. Some horrible, some not so. There's generally only one real outcome when it comes to sex offenses though. One person uses their body to overpower and violate another's. Most people would consider a street mugging to be less impacting on the victim's life than say the rape of a child. And since pedophiles target nothing but minors, parents feel that registration is an effective way to protect the general community. Whether it works or not, or if this argument is valid or not, is not clear to me.
Nicotine,
Did you use one of the kits being discussed in the article to do that to your makarov? Or is that a custom job. If it's custom I don't think that's what the article was talking about. Your gun doesn't look like a toy from the photo. But nice idea with the green though.
westphoenix
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Quinn said:
I think he meant to say:
We want to do everything we can to circle wagons around the problem of guns in our city and make sure we are on the cutting edge of preventing the flow of guns into this city
A common misconception. Bloomberg is the epitome of RINO. He is no more a "Republican" than is Teddy Kennedy. Bloomberg is a "liberal" Democrat that ran as a Republican to avoid having to compete against other "liberal" Democrats in the primary.
What a shock, eh? The guy running the anti-gun crusade in NYC, and attempting to export his views to the rest of the country, is a cheat.
Why the GOP allowed this is anybody's guess. Just goes to show, tho: There ain't no difference: They're all republicrats.
Simple, so they could win.
Republican BUSINESS leaders and supporters love him. That group couldn't give a fig for the 2A but when it comes to making money in NYC they are all for it. Under Bloomberg they can make more than under an open Democrat who panders to Sharpton and is owned by the community he represents.
A real republican running in NYC has about as much chance as a crippled and bleeding seal in a shark tank.
I wonder if my idiot mayor....
realizes that there already is a regulation 90 day waiting period between the purchase of another handgun(plus an additional six weeks to process a purchase order request). Thank the almighty for term limits. I have stated before, billionaires like him, if they want us to not have guns should pay for the same level of personal security (NYPD bodyguards) for all citizens that they have. And you're right, Bloomberg ran as a Republican because everyone else was democrat of one type or another and he wanted to ride the coat tails of "America's mayor" Benito Guliani.
realizes that there already is a regulation 90 day waiting period between the purchase of another handgun(plus an additional six weeks to process a purchase order request). Thank the almighty for term limits. I have stated before, billionaires like him, if they want us to not have guns should pay for the same level of personal security (NYPD bodyguards) for all citizens that they have. And you're right, Bloomberg ran as a Republican because everyone else was democrat of one type or another and he wanted to ride the coat tails of "America's mayor" Benito Guliani.
Mannlicher
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What would this new law do to the viability of the "Pink Pistols" Group?