Gun-Friendly Northeastern States?

The Northeastern states are a mixed bag in general. Folks from PA would tell you that PA is very gun friendly (handguns and long guns). The more restrictive are Mass, NJ, and NY, and Maryland especially for folks that live in the major metropolitan areas.
 
Hello All,

Are there any gun-friendly northeastern states? Between New Jersey, New York, Mass, etc, they all seem to have a problem with the 2nd Amendment.

There seem to be no Floridas or Texases up there.
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Then you wrote

Great states, but what about the big ones with lots of influence in the government?

It's ironic, considering the role Mass. played in the founding of our country.

Where was the NRA for the last 50 years up there?
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And then you wrote me a PM telling me to switch to decaf.

And then you wrote, mocking me


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First off, none of the Founding Fathers were from the Massachusetts, NY or PA as we know those States today! So please don't go there!


What?

If you think the people and politics are the same in 1775 as they are now, then WHAT?

I'm from Maine, and I've been here a while. I don't know where you're from because you don't have the guts to put it up in your profile. I gave you first hand knowledge why New England is on shakey ground regarding the 2nd amendment, and you write me a nasty PM.

So I don't know where you're from, but you're knocking where I live, so back off!
 
and Maryland especially for folks that live in the major metropolitan areas.
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The "one" good gun law that Md has, besides allowing all NFA guns, is that cities and towns cannot pass their own gun laws that are even more restrictive. The gun laws are the same throughout the state. (except for hunting with guns)
 
Maryland is not now, nor has it EVER been

a "Northeastern state." It straddles the Mason Dixon Line, couldn't make up its mind which side it was on in the war and has since become overrun with third-rate, second-generation Kennedys and other carpetbaggers. :barf:

Heck, even Massachusetts is better - at least it has REAL Kennedys! :rolleyes:
 
Maybe, but half of us consider ourselves as Northerners and half of us consider us Southeners. 140 years later that is one thing that has not changed here.
 
Lincoln turned Maryland into a federal hand puppet. Maryland seems like a yankee State to me. Then again, the Maryland State song speaks of the despot Lincoln and the "northern scum" ... so that sounds like a Southern sentiment!
 
Lincoln turned Maryland into a federal hand puppet. Maryland seems like a yankee State to me. Then again, the Maryland State song speaks of the despot Lincoln and the "northern scum" ... so that sounds like a Southern sentiment!
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MAN! You have got to be sh tting me. I just looked it up and you're right. "Maryland My Maryland" was against Lincoln!!!!! damn it!

I think of myself as a Northener (not a New Englander though,by a long shot) but half of the state (Eastern Shore and Southern Md) thinks of itself as Southern. Half the state thinks that the C. War was for states' rights and half thinks it was for the South's right to keep slaves.

I don't know if this is why Md is only halfway (guess its around half or two thirds) anti gun, but if it is and if it is my fellow Northeners that are anti gun, then my goal is to educate them and to hopefully change their minds. "Change the mindset from within" I always say.
 
Hi all! In Massachusetts the gun laws are a double-edged sword. While the state has it's laws they allow the Chief of Police in each community to put his own "spin" on it. Each CLEO is allowed final say on who is issued a licence. Even though it's not supposed to happen,if he has a reason not to issue,you won't get a licence. If you think that he's wrong you can take him to court! :barf: I live in So. Central Mass.(south of Worcester) in the past 5 years we are getting flooded by people moving here from Metro-West Boston. Our property values and tax rates are lower(for now!) It's cheaper for them to build their $500,000.00 houses here and commute to work near Boston. Problem is their KILLING us. We just finished putting MILLIONS into our school system, built a new High school and refurbished our other schools. Now at the May town meeting the School committee is being pressured (by these pushy new people) to ask for another 1.1 million. This will send our taxes soaring!!! :mad: The elderly and folks on fixed income can't afford to pay their taxes now! I was told by a Selectman that it's only going to get worse. Some of the "new people" are planning to run for town offices to make sure they get what they want. Seems like my town (and others around it) are in for a LONG fight!!! I'm not trying to hijack the thread, just giving a little info....Norm.
 
Some people down my way are still fightin' that war that ended over 100 years ago. I personally think it ridiculous. What I can figure out is why Teddy Kenedy and John Kerry keep getting re-elected time after time in Mass? The last election was a classic... Tom "Puff" Daschle OUT. That was a victory for pro-gunners nationwide. But, things haven't changed much.
 
Let's watch the tone of some of these posts, folks. Remember, we're supposed to be engaging in polite discussion - not name calling.

Thanks. :)

-Dave
 
What can be learned from the Antis?

The consensus shows Vermont, New Hampshire, Pennsylvania, and Maine as gun friendly.

These states are within proximity to gun-unfriendly states with their varying degrees of severity (Mass, NJ, etc).

The question is: what went wrong in the latter states? What factors caused them to start electing the likes of Sens. Kennedy and Lautenberg?

And how do residents keep it from happening to the presently gun-friendly places?
 
Good luck to you guys in the north east.

Maybe, but half of us consider ourselves as Northerners and half of us consider us Southeners. 140 years later that is one thing that has not changed here.
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Is the Baltimore and environs an area that considers itself Southern? Just curious. A few years ago I went into a diner that had a sign advertising"Southern Home Cooking!" I was in the process of looking the menu over to order breakfast. I looked it over and asked the waitress,"Where's the grits?"
"What's grits?"she replied. Simple test: if you go into a place that serves breakfast and grits aren't on the menu...you're not in the South.:)

And the deal about some folks still fighting the Civil War.
Any of you people know your family history? I'm 51 years old. When I was born, a person who was six years old in 1860 would have been 100 years old. I've known quite a few people who were 100 and not senile. I've sat on my grandparents' laps and heard stories about the war. Where did they get the stories? Sitting on their grandparents' laps as a child. Being told the stories by the participants. So...one link between me and Civil War participants. Y'all ever talk to old people when you were younger? I once knew a fellow who could remember New Year's Day 1900 quite well and, my God, that was a whole 105 years ago.
Civil war veterans were still fairly common when my father was a child. Far as that goes, I've known a number of WWI veterans and a few Spanish-American war veterans. The Civil War is just barely out of living memory. There are still people living who knew Civil War veterans.
 
It is not Baltimore its pronounced "Balimer".

Some states still have their roots ingrained in them (especially Mass.) and the North East still seems to have an attitude towards the South and the South still seems to have one towards the N.E.. (Can't speak for the midwest or the "other side" of the U.S.. Never been there) I am not referring to N.H. or Vt, and for the non-Applachian or coastline S. but this is my impression. I am not sure how this has effected gun rights views but it may have something to do with the types of Christian churches (I am speaking historically and I am DEFINETELY not intending to start a discussion about current religions). In the N. there were a lot of Quakers that had a great influence on the state governments and if you include the menonites and the Amish (and others) then you seem to have a large influence of pacifist oriented denominations or with pacifistic tendencies.

This is just my opinion and would like to hear other's possible thoughts.


P.S. Byron Quick, basically the only thing people in Baltimore,half of Md and myself have in common with the real South is that we still say "y'all" like you. :) Anyone who's family has lived in Va., just across the river, for more than three generations is a completely different story though. They still eat chitlins in Va???
 
Novos: I grew up in PA, and I don't think the Amish or Mennonites (sp?) have much influence on the region as a whole in terms of pacifistic ideals. They reside in small pockets regionally. I grew up around them and they are really nice people. Religiously, I believe the NE is dominated by the German-Hungarian-Polish groups (and the associated religions) which may in fact have more influence on core attitudes on freedom.

In PA-WV-Ohio the states were dominated by HUNTERS, and I believe that has the biggest influence on gun-attitudes. Handgun ownership is increasing in those areas. Most people that I have met from the upper NE (north of Mass) also tend to have a rural influence and that also means hunting and freedom. If we loose hunting, we loose the battle over private ownership of firearms as the biggest politically correct justification has ended.

I didn't know that I was calling anyone a name of consequence? I have heard that so many times on Rush's show that I figured it was common place and not particularily offensive unless you're Mr. Daschle.
 
Most people that I have met from the upper NE (north of Mass) also tend to have a rural influence and that also means hunting and freedom.
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Good points. Also, is it possible that much of the N.E. (as well as Md and N. Va.) is losing it's hunting heritage because of the "megalopolis"? There seems to be more and more suburban sprawl and people everywhere, making it harder to have places to hunt in the mid Atlantic states and the lower New England states (and E. Penn. N.J., De and N.Y.).

I like the thoughts of it being the hunting idea better than my idea of the religion heritage connection. Now that you have mentioned it it seems like a near direct parallel that lack of hunting leads to less hunters which leads to less pro gun voters which leads to..... etc.
 
Self Defense, Firearms, and "Duty to Retreat"?!?

Great points about hunting, freedom, and rights.

What about use of firearms for self-defense? (That could pick up where firearms for hunting leaves off) Texas and Florida laws, even in urban areas, are friendly toward self-defense, while New Jersey boasts a "duty to retreat" tradition. That's another major threat facing firearms rights.

How does "duty to retreat" case law take hold in an area? What regional attitudes cause it to become law?
 
How does "duty to retreat" case law take hold in an area? What regional attitudes cause it to become law?
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I have been asking that question about Md laws ever since I knew the "take the avenue of escape" mentality existed. :confused: :mad:
 
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