Gun Free School Zone: "You can't get there from here."

Imagine the first US Attorney to get slapped around by the 5th Circuit and then the USSC when they are confronted with the realities of US v Lopez, 1995.

Although Congress has added the repetitive ("because it has an effect on interstate commerce, these guns, which have moved in interstate commerce...") I would be amazed (nay, disappointed), if the Court would give them a blanket Okey-dokey on a law that was re-passed one year after the Court ruled it to be an unconstitutional extension of the commerce clause.

But that's just me.

Rick
 
Again, the law is bad, but unenforceable.
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Then what's the point in having it?

I look at these *trash laws* and *nuisance laws* as .gov insurance for the inevitable event that they need something and/or anything to get somebody for.
 
The law might be bad an unenforceable, but the lucky guy to bump into the many crackpot US Attorneys, coupled with a bad judge, will find, even if acquitted, that he is out $100,000 in legal fees.

Rick
 
Then again that same crackpot US attorney might run into the NRA-ILA who would have motivation to get a conviction under that law overturned or have the person aquitted. :D
 
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Then again that same crackpot US attorney might run into the NRA-ILA who would have motivation to get a convivtion under that law oveturned or have the person aquitted.
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He'd have to go run for office or become a lobbyist. The horror.
 
Know any federal prosecutors willing to pop a gunowner for peaceably driving down the street? After Lopez?

I don't think so.
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I don't know them, but it seems to me that what Ed Rosenthal did was even less threatening than being near a school with a gun, and some ambitious prosecutor found time for him. Suggests to me that there might just be an ambitious, gungrabbing prosecutor somewhere in America, maybe one who has in mind catching the eye of Feinstein.

I do see the recent Raich decision as applicable here. It is certain that it applies to guns, and Justice Thomas says that it applies to "virtually anything." Does "virtually anything" include being near a school with a gun? Mr. Scalia says that you'll have to ask the Congress. The Congress has given its answer. That's the end of that.
 
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Crosshair, grandforks North Dakota, that brings back memories. I was at GFAFB for a while in the early 90's and we used to give Minot a hard time because we had an indoor swimming pool and they didn't lol. Then my son got stationed there and married a GF girl. I remember my first week in GF and was amazed there were no coffee shops like Duncan donuts, had to go to the truckstop or pancake house for coffee back then.

If I read the law right those with a CCW permit are exempt, also if ther gun is in a locked case or unloaded and private property ( Home ) is also exempt. I wonder if a car is considered private property as L.E.O.'s have to have a warrant to search a car without permission. The only exception to a warrant is fish and game cops, they can search the vehicle without a warrant here in N.H.
I often bring my grandson to school and go hunting in the fall and have my rifle or handgun with me, but I also have a permit and keep the rifle empty with the bolt removed, The handgun has a very secure hiding place and I leave it there when I have to go in the school. I also bring my 100lb dog who has no sense of humor to sit in the car when not going hunting and I have my handgun so no one even comes close to the car as she gives one about a 20 yard warning zone and then the teeth come out.
 
There is no CCW exemption in Vermont, since they don't require a permit there.

There is no exemption for self defense.

A locked container? No trunk in my wife's mini van and only two lockable cases to cover the ten guns I normally take to the range.

Any talk of exemptions is bogus. This law needs repealing.

Rick
 
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