Gun decision for my partner: 5 rounds of .38spl vs. 11 rounds of 9mm

3. If he gets into a situation where he needs more than 5 rounds..... He most likely needs more that 11 AND more training.
No offense, but statements like this are a dead give away that a person has never been in a combat situation. I have seen trained marksmen miss multiple times in the heat of the moment. Especially against a moving target. Every round counts.

It is also funny how people pretend it is something bad to try and suggest the best gun for someone who has little knowledge about them. Especially after they try it and like it. Like it is somehow a negative thing to defer to someone else's judgement if they have more knowledge and experience.
 
No offense, but statements like this are a dead give away that a person has never been in a combat situation. I have seen trained marksmen miss multiple times in the heat of the moment. Especially against a moving target. Every round counts.

It's not uncommon to hear this sort of situation occur. I recently had a chance to listen to presentations by 3 different cops who had been very seriously injured in shooting situations with single armed attacking suspects.

One cop only fired a few rounds and hit with each round, claiming to have resorted to training and practice which had emphasized the importance of the basics, including focusing on sighting.

Another cop said that a couple of magazines had been fired, without making hits, until he realized he was to run out of ammunition (mags) and finally settled down to making 2 aimed shots, both of which hit the suspect.

Another cop related how he had been hit with 6 rounds (I think, but I'd have to check my notes) and seriously injured, and watched 2 other cops being shot at, one of whom was also hit and down. The suspect sustained some hits which didn't immediately stop him. The cop said he struggled to place his front sight on the suspect's head and rapidly fired what turned out to be 3 rapid shots, all of which hit the suspect in the head and finished the shootout.

You may never know how many rounds you'll need if you're involved in a shooting situation, or how well you'll be able to call upon your skills in a stressful situation, or whether your skills will up to the task, I suppose ...

It is also funny how people pretend it is something bad to try and suggest the best gun for someone who has little knowledge about them. Especially after they try it and like it. Like it is somehow a negative thing to defer to someone else's judgement if they have more knowledge and experience.

Not 'bad', per se, but maybe more like difficult and of potentially unknown or questionable usefulness. It would obviously depend on the knowledge, experience and skills of the person for whom the handgun is intended.

If someone wants help, and is interested enough to ask for it, that's one thing.

If someone doesn't want help, and doesn't ask for it, that's another.

If someone doesn't want help, but yields to a friend, family member or significant other who is determined to help them, that's also a different situation. Is the recipient acquiescing to the help-minded person just to make them feel better? Is that a good thing in that particular situation? (I don't know.)

Then there's everything else in between.

If someone yields to allowing someone else to make a choice on their behalf and it turns out to be one which places the recipient at some potential disadvantage because further training, familiarity and practice isn't going to occur ... but now everybody feels better about a choice having been made ... is that going to be good thing for those people in their lives?

That's one of the reasons I don't get involved in the practice of recommending specific handgun platforms anymore.

Personally, I prefer to expose folks who ask for my advice about choosing defensive handguns to as many examples of handguns which they think they might like, or find easiest to use, and have them spend as much range time as may be necessary for them to be able to make up their minds ... and then I don't try to change their minds and risk compromising their confidence in the weapon or their abilities with it.

I wouldn't fall into the "you pick one for me" situation, myself. If someone wasn't interested enough in the first place to devote some attention and effort in considering changing from one platform to another, I'm not going to make their choices for them. Anyone else can certainly feel free to feel otherwise. :)

Did I say this wasn't an easy situation? And that I didn't have an answer? ;)

Only you and your partner know the best answer for this situation.
 
No offense, but statements like this are a dead give away that a person has never been in a combat situation.

I have a DD214 that says otherwise, you?

Look if I knew I was going into "combat".... I'd just not go. If I HAD to go, I'd take a rifle, not a stupid handgun, and I would bring a large group of well armed friends.

My point still stands... That chance of needing a gun is small (unless you happen to enjoy hanging out in seedy places and acting like a jerk). The chance that after the target realizes you are armed also being armed and still being interested in a fight.. Even smaller. And if you can't hit a BG with 5 shots.... You are not likely to hit with the extra 6 either.

Is more better? Of course, but I am not going to head to the store with an M4 and a BCL just to get a gallon of milk.
 
I would seriously doubt the veracity of your statements due to the ill informed and inexperienced content. No one that has ever seen combat wishes they had fewer rounds or says that additional rounds are meaningless.
 
I would seriously doubt the veracity of your statements due to the ill informed and inexperienced content. No one that has ever seen combat wishes they had fewer rounds or says that additional rounds are meaningless.

Pretty clear that you didn't actually read them then. You *might* try reading them again slowly and without the attitude to get the true content.... But I'll bet you just come back with some BS comment..... So I'll let you have it.

I don't know why you are even asking questions.... You clearly already have your mind made up and are just looking for fanboys to support your already held position to force YOUR desires on your BF.

On a related note.... Being new here is there a way to ignore certain posters?
 
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For my use, I would choose a Glock 26 over a 5-shot snubby.

I would also chose to seek training with the Glock 26.
I would replace the stock trigger spring with a NY1.
I would install sights to my liking.
I would purchase a quality holster and a mag carrier.
I would purchase extra magazines.
I would practice at the range regularly as my schedule and funds permit.
When I don't have time or money, I would practice dry-firing and drawing from concealment.
I would learn how the gun works, where to buy extra parts, how often to replace parts that might wear out, and how to replace those parts myself.
I would be absolutely certain to never, ever put my finger inside the trigger guard unless I intend to release the striker.
I would learn what ammunition was reliable and performed adequately and I would purchase enough to both test and carry.
I would dress around the gun rather than it leave it at home because it's too uncomfortable or too hard to conceal.

But that's all the stuff I would do.

And if I knew I wouldn't do a lot of that stuff, then a compact revolver would be my next choice. :)
 
you said he shoots the g26 better and can get twice as much ammo, then do it. if you carry a g26,19,17,34 then you can share mags. a spare g19 or g17 mag in the door will help if reloads are needed and give more ammo and more to hold onto. whatever you choose train and shoot like your life depends on it, as it may someday (hope not). good luck and keep practicing
 
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