Gun dealers: Friends of the 2nd amendment?
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"government loyalist."
This can be one of two things. It can be 1) a diehard supporter or 2) someone who just keeps his mouth shut or maybe even cooperate to avoid trouble (which is fine for whichever government as long as they don't rock the boat.) The statement "if you're not part of the solution, then you are part of the problem" has some truth to it
In the days of the first War for Independence, the 13 colonies were divided into 3 different camps 1/3 Tories (British supporters) 1/3 Neutral (people who wanted to stay out of trouble or were intimidated by British) 1/3 Patriots (those who risked "their lives, fortunes and sacred honor")
Today we have 4/8 Tories and 3/8 Neutral and 1/8 Patriots (and the patriots have no common worldview, different details get them bogged down fighting each other)
Thanks for your interpretation, Doug.38PR, but it seems to boil down to a projection of good people versus bad people and Vermont Carry didn't care for that explanation earlier.
Vermont Carry:
You drew a line in the sand by declaring that everyone falls into one of two groups. I may or may not agree with you, but I can't discuss the topic, or even pick which side of the line I'm on, if you will not explain what you mean.
Vermont Carry:
You drew a line in the sand by declaring that everyone falls into one of two groups. I may or may not agree with you, but I can't discuss the topic, or even pick which side of the line I'm on, if you will not explain what you mean.
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VC:
Slow down, buddy. There are lots of potential friends and resources here. Even folks like Redworm or Glenn Meyer will agree with you from TIME TO TIME, but it is just as much their right to disagree with you, as it is your right to disagree with them.
BTW, your poll is extremely skewed in its wording and as a result of that, I elected to not vote in it. Let me just say, I'd love to own a newly manufactured full auto Tommy gun with no paperwork and no hassle.
Center yourself, man. Not politically... that's selling out. But at least logically, so you can anticipate the arguments of the other side, find the logic there, and refute it with your own logic. Breathe.
And don't take any lip from that WildAlaska guy.
He's just plain crazy.
Slow down, buddy. There are lots of potential friends and resources here. Even folks like Redworm or Glenn Meyer will agree with you from TIME TO TIME, but it is just as much their right to disagree with you, as it is your right to disagree with them.
BTW, your poll is extremely skewed in its wording and as a result of that, I elected to not vote in it. Let me just say, I'd love to own a newly manufactured full auto Tommy gun with no paperwork and no hassle.
Center yourself, man. Not politically... that's selling out. But at least logically, so you can anticipate the arguments of the other side, find the logic there, and refute it with your own logic. Breathe.
And don't take any lip from that WildAlaska guy.
He's just plain crazy.There are clearly RKBA-friendly and RKBA-unfriendly dealers. Some owners of major retail gun stores will rant at length about the stupidity of gun laws, and some of the kitchen-table FFLs are in it just to make a tiny bit of extra money, and don't want to rock the boat.
As distasteful as some FFLs are, at least they're increasing the size of the FFL oligopoly, applying some measure of restraint on retail firearms prices.
As distasteful as some FFLs are, at least they're increasing the size of the FFL oligopoly, applying some measure of restraint on retail firearms prices.
Our shop is RKBA friendly. That said we follow all laws even those that infringe upon the second amendment. We love the amendment but we also love staying out of prison LOL. What we do is fight, scratch, and claw to support pro gun rights politicians and laws. We use valuable space for this end and spend lots of money at it.
A few of thoughts.
The poll is entirely skewed as to lead one to conclude gun dealers are bad people. That right there is enough of a reason to shut this thread down.
The opening post isn't any better. If anything, it is preaching. Preaching a one sided message that brooks no discussion or dissent from the basic premise. Reason number two, to shut this down.
The opening post is also a thinly veiled attack on one member, in general. I'm not the only one who caught the reference (even after Dave so thoughtfully edited the original post, which I never read). A third reason to shut the thread down.
The opening post paints all FFL holders with a very broad brush and leaves no room for discussion as to its merits. It says, "Agree with me or just get the hell off my thread." Further posts by the originator only adds merit to reason number 2, to shut the thread down.
I believe Trip20 said it well enough for any reasonable man to understand.
I'm going to say this out loud. The RKBA is not the be-all or end-all of our liberties. It is only one facet among many. Take your blinders off and see the bigger picture. That's what L&P was intended for. I don't believe Rich ever intended for this forum to be a sanctuary for such niggardly world views.
Fair Warning: If you are here, at TFL, to preach your absolutist RKBA message; If you are not here to to discuss the various legal and political issues of our times, but only to spout the platitudes of the Church of the Gun and the follies of all of us sinners... Get Out!
True Liberty is much more than some single simple-minded issue that we have been seeing here of late. TFL is not the counterpoint to the Democratic Underground.
The signal to noise ratio has gotten so bad, it is hard to find any signal at all.
The poll is entirely skewed as to lead one to conclude gun dealers are bad people. That right there is enough of a reason to shut this thread down.
The opening post isn't any better. If anything, it is preaching. Preaching a one sided message that brooks no discussion or dissent from the basic premise. Reason number two, to shut this down.
The opening post is also a thinly veiled attack on one member, in general. I'm not the only one who caught the reference (even after Dave so thoughtfully edited the original post, which I never read). A third reason to shut the thread down.
The opening post paints all FFL holders with a very broad brush and leaves no room for discussion as to its merits. It says, "Agree with me or just get the hell off my thread." Further posts by the originator only adds merit to reason number 2, to shut the thread down.
I believe Trip20 said it well enough for any reasonable man to understand.
I'm going to say this out loud. The RKBA is not the be-all or end-all of our liberties. It is only one facet among many. Take your blinders off and see the bigger picture. That's what L&P was intended for. I don't believe Rich ever intended for this forum to be a sanctuary for such niggardly world views.
Fair Warning: If you are here, at TFL, to preach your absolutist RKBA message; If you are not here to to discuss the various legal and political issues of our times, but only to spout the platitudes of the Church of the Gun and the follies of all of us sinners... Get Out!
True Liberty is much more than some single simple-minded issue that we have been seeing here of late. TFL is not the counterpoint to the Democratic Underground.
The signal to noise ratio has gotten so bad, it is hard to find any signal at all.
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