Groin 2 - Body Armor
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George Hill
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I'm here Shin Tao:
Momentum and energy aside... When I caught a slug from a .45 I felt like I was blasted with a baseball bat. Yes, it knocked me down... hard. I had a shattered sturnum and suffered painful and difficult breathing for about 4 weeks after.... another 3 weeks till the healing was done. Many years later - I still feel pain when that area is touched - from nerve damage.
However - I was still able to return fire while on the ground and won that fight. The other guy is still alive, living in Mexico and is missing a leg.
The other times... I dont want to talk about right now.
Momentum and energy aside... When I caught a slug from a .45 I felt like I was blasted with a baseball bat. Yes, it knocked me down... hard. I had a shattered sturnum and suffered painful and difficult breathing for about 4 weeks after.... another 3 weeks till the healing was done. Many years later - I still feel pain when that area is touched - from nerve damage.
However - I was still able to return fire while on the ground and won that fight. The other guy is still alive, living in Mexico and is missing a leg.
The other times... I dont want to talk about right now.
parabellum
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Is it just me, or would the name of this thread make a great title for a low budget action movie sequel?
Rick Solomon
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Parabellum: No it's not just you. I actually did it on purpose. And I would REALLY like to see such a movie 
Knocks the breath out of you, and your chest goes numb.
After the ruckuss dies down and you pull off the vest, you will probably think the vest didn't work -- there will be a hole in your chest about an inch or so deep. Looks just like a bullet wound, only bloodier.
Then it starts to hurt. A lot.
LawDog
After the ruckuss dies down and you pull off the vest, you will probably think the vest didn't work -- there will be a hole in your chest about an inch or so deep. Looks just like a bullet wound, only bloodier.
Then it starts to hurt. A lot.
LawDog
George Hill
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Lawdog... Thats it in a nutshell.
Cept - mine didnt feel numb... it felt like it was burning.
Cept - mine didnt feel numb... it felt like it was burning.
Badger Arms
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Matt VDW:
Consider the difference between what happens to a free-hanging side of beef hit by a 50 grain varmint bullet at 3000 feet per second and one hit by a 2,000,000 grain football player at 15 feet per second. Both projectiles have about 1000 ft lbs of energy, but the one with the helmet will swing the beef a good bit further.
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Hmmmmm, 7,000 grains to the pound... um, 2,000,000 divided by 7,000 = 285 pounds. Ouch. Still, I'd rather be hit by the 285 pound guy with the helmet and pads than the 285 pound pike driven through my heart. What I'm trying to say here is that frontal area is a factor. Which leads us back to why a vest is important. It spreads the frontal area out over a greater area -- in this case the outside of a cone driven into the body.
For the record, a shotgun blast moves a human being just as much when shooting it as the person being shot mass being equal. A standing man firing a shotgun without first leaning into the shot might be knocked over. With a 9mm, no chance. I've watched people being shot (on film) and never once did I see any perceptable movement in their Center of Gravity.
Consider the difference between what happens to a free-hanging side of beef hit by a 50 grain varmint bullet at 3000 feet per second and one hit by a 2,000,000 grain football player at 15 feet per second. Both projectiles have about 1000 ft lbs of energy, but the one with the helmet will swing the beef a good bit further.
[/quote]Hmmmmm, 7,000 grains to the pound... um, 2,000,000 divided by 7,000 = 285 pounds. Ouch. Still, I'd rather be hit by the 285 pound guy with the helmet and pads than the 285 pound pike driven through my heart. What I'm trying to say here is that frontal area is a factor. Which leads us back to why a vest is important. It spreads the frontal area out over a greater area -- in this case the outside of a cone driven into the body.
For the record, a shotgun blast moves a human being just as much when shooting it as the person being shot mass being equal. A standing man firing a shotgun without first leaning into the shot might be knocked over. With a 9mm, no chance. I've watched people being shot (on film) and never once did I see any perceptable movement in their Center of Gravity.