My family and I have eaten MANY meals(and continue to do so) from any one of 5 870's over the span of 25 years. I never had a problem with any of them, and still own 2. Have taken close to 35 deer with 870's, and over a dozen turkeys - I'd say that's a few meals. Geese and ducks are LUCKY I don't like to eat them. Pheasants, grouse, quail, woodcock, etc... haven't been as lucky!!! I can't understand buying a mossburg, when for a few more dollars you could have an 870 - there is no comparison in quality,durability, and function, and often a price difference of less than $50. The 870's I sold were fine guns that never gave me a bit of trouble - I just had to make a deal for something else(.243 700BDL, 870mag w/3" capability,etc...). Cast my vote for the 870 - a real workhorse for a decent price!!!! - JMHO, georgestrings