Griswold replica question

Hardy,

My reference to vaudeville was in response to Hawg's ratchet "impression". It was not directed at you. I only said you were wrong about the newer brass frames, but if you meant the repros vs. the originals, you may have a point. I also believe that the original frames were made of a different brass alloy called gun metal or red brass.

"Red brass is both an American term for the copper-zinc-tin alloy known as gunmetal, and an alloy which is considered both a brass and a bronze. It typically contains 85% copper, 5% tin, 5% lead, and 5% zinc. Red brass is also an alternative name for copper alloy C23000, which is composed of 14–16% zinc, 0.05% iron and lead, and the remainder copper. It may also refer to ounce metal, another copper-zinc-tin alloy." from Wikipedia
 
Hardy, I think you're to be commended for keeping a bp only store open for two years. Your mistake was not realizing how small the clientele would be and maybe not realizing how cheap the big stores can sell. I wouldn't close the doors just yet but I would branch out and have the bp products as a side line, not the main line. Just my two cents and worth every bit of a penny.
 
No. You didn't imply I am the clown. I decided that on my own. But, I just don't trust new brass guns as well as you guys do. I bought too many that had to be sent back. I know more than the novice but not the expert. I guess I'm in the middle. Just hate for someone to hurt themselves with a----------. Buy quality.
WBH
 
You are right, Hawg.

I sent some steel frames back too.!! I look for lever smoothness (how the rammer slides in chambers) and how the gun cocks before examining anything else.

What I didn't like about buying guns (C/B) were the wedges too tight that were very unfriendly to newbees/ Nipples that wouldn't come undone- Hammer walls that dragged hammers due to burrs and poor craftsmanshift etc. Uberti was always more user friendly. (But not always) Alas! Some higher end piettas are great! I like the 3rd gen colt 51. 61 Navys, 49 pockets and 60 armys--they (all the ones I got) were pretty dang good as compared to the Piettas and Uberti-- I know you don't treat them as real colts but went well with customers. I too like them. Wish they still made them.

They were good-were they not?
WBH
 
They were not overpriced-the scarcity and out of production pushed up price for collectors. Value is based on supply and demand along with the principle of "substitution." Ask Doc. The value will go up if the demand stays strong and the supply is limited. So, if you spend an extra $100.00 you do have a pretty well made gun w/colt markings and extra finishing as compared to a mill thats cranking out pistols that will always meet demand and will have the supply and will continue meeting demand. Oh --got circus clown dilema again-sorry.


WBH
 
Well, Hawg I do have CCD on this thread. But I like being it:D Look up "J teal band" I played lead guitar on it and traveled w/ 2 sg 1968 gibson standard guitars w/ a vintage 50 watt Marshall amp. I made no red cent on the music that is still going on or the album. But--I'm the only Rock UN Star "HA" that shot bp guns:D There is a lot in common w/ hard rock guitaring and western guns. We competed w/ guitar slingers. In the late 60's and thru the late 70's lead guitarists were classified as guitar slingers. I was pretty good-but no CIGAR. The new music doesn't have guitar slingers anymore and most of us are now obscure! So-- visit the sites and listen to something that I did in the 70's. Also, I played in a band called Condor---and they had an album cover with a cowboy dropping a Griswald C/B that I never influenced (just a coincidence) on the cover. I had no influence or suggestions for art design. But it too is funny. Now, I'm not plugging a band done so many years ago--but I want you to listen to it anyway. I'm not an engineer or a gunsmith but I did love western guns since I was little. I had the Paladin. I had the Matell fanner gun--(GREAT GUN AT TIME FOR KIDS) And I always and still have Colt guns. I guess the 3rd gen
Colts got my attention back. We all have different talents and expertise. Being more artistic than mechanical, I guess I saw more in the name COLT stamped on the barrel than what it really was.
WBH
 
I understand the almost magical allure of the Colt name but just stamping the name on a gun doesn't make it a Colt. Now back to my last question, 100 bucks over what?
 
I sold an 1860 army unfired 3rd gen for 400. I sold an 1849 pocket for 390. I think that was about 100+/- difference. Maybe I can't get them anymore for a 100 difference now. I do know that Taylor & Co sell Uberti types 300+/-. I'll have to look for more but they just don't pop up --- And I didn't make A's in math either.

Sorry I was too impressed w/ colt on barrel. CCD got the best of me:D

I kinda like the CCD designation. Makes me a little different-don't it though.

WBH
 
Mebbo so. The last second gen I saw was NIB for 900. I don't usually buy Uberti's anyway with Pietta's so cheap. I have seen a few I'd like to have tho. That 51 you've got is one and I was trying to get up the money for it but I just spent four days in the hospital and another week off work and the holidays coming up so there goes that.:(
 
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Hawg-- in 1985 -I played guitar on studio album that producer put this pic on it. Is this a Griswold?
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WBH
 
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