Grip angle wrong, don't like the feel?

For me it is not just that grip angle on the Glock is not comfortable, it is that when I draw or raise from a low ready my natural movement does not get the front sight anywhere near on target. I own or have owned a bunch of different handguns and fired a bunch more and the Glock is about the only one that gives me that trouble.
 
I don't see the validity of the "point" test.

1. 99% of the time it's a person trying to "show" you that a Glock is the best fit for you. (I know you're not implying this). It appears to me that unless you have rheumatoid arthritis, your wrist is bent in order for your finger to point at what your aiming. It's a "test" that doesn't provide a measurable result.

2. I don't point to shoot my gun, so this test doesn't do me any favors.
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The point of the point test is that your mind always knows where your finger is pointing. It's not close to as exact as aiming but if you're in a position where you can't bring the pistol up to line of sight or have to return fire in the dark you'll at least have a pretty good idea where it's pointing. Not an ideal situation but it happens. Second it pretty much lines up your wrist to to the axis of the barrel because for most people their natural point is parallel with their forearm. BTW Glocks don't work for me because the angle is wrong for me and the grip too thick and blocky.

3. Like you, my natural stance results in a straight wrist. Firing guns such as Glocks during long range sessions does not bode well in the comfort department.
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I'm with you in that I need to tilt my wrist down to aim a Glock. I find that slightly uncomfortable. On the other hand, a 1911 or an M&P passes the point test because my finger, forearm, and the barrel are in near perfect alignment and my wrist is in the most relaxed and comfortable position.

Why place your body in a position that isn't its most stable position (i.e. bent wrist) for thousands upon thousands of rounds just because someone says you point that way?
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Perhaps you are one of those few who's finger does not align the same.
 
Different strokes...

The best feel of any handgun for me is a toss up between a Luger and a Nambu. I do not nor will I likely own either.

Of the guns I have, the M39 S&W is #1 followed by a M13 S&W. The M13 was my service sidearm until I switched to a M39. Those were w2ell over three decades ago and still work for me. I have a 1911 and Star PD and they are nice as is my 22/45.

I think it is really rather personal, all in all...
 
pick up a walther p99, the best fitting gun, ever. Thats a fact, not an opinion
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Yeah had one of those, well a SW99 and while it did feel good in the hand it was in .40 S&W.......that is where the mistake was. ;)
 
Magyar, in all due respect, I have to say you are flat wrong!

There is no way that the angle of the Luger grip frame is the same as that on the P-38. Unless you find the one spot on the curving P-38 backstrap that has the same angle as the Luger.

If you use the frontstrap to compare angles, then the curve of a gun's backstrap is ignored.

Bart Noir
Who doesn't like the Glock angle, thinks the P-38 fits sooo nicely and has long wanted a P99 just because of the grip.
 
I hear what you are saying, Sevens. I love them all too, but some grips hurt my hands on recoil. Being mostly a magnum revolver shooter, my experience is limited. I always welcome an opportunity to shoot any gun. I have never shot a semi-auto that hurt my hands. Maybe it is just my hold.

The stock grips on my 29-10 S&W got changed to a Hogue hardwood top finger groove style. Much more comfortable. My new Redhawk .44 Mag tends to bite into the palm of my left hand, forcing me to modify my grip somewhat. That one isn't bad enough to justify replacement yet, but I've only put 400 rounds through it so far.

I can't even imagine what the .460 would feel like with hardwood grips:eek:
 
There is no way that the angle of the Luger grip frame is the same as that on the P-38.
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Bart, you are right and I stand corrected...I just took my P-38 out and realized my error....I better have more coffee before I jump in next time....:)
 
For me, the grip angle isn't as much an issue as the shape and width of the grip. A Glock doesn't fit me particularly well because they have fairly wide squarish grips. My 1911 has a flat mainspring housing, but my brother's Colt with it's arched housing actually fits me a bit better likewise I replaced the flat-backstrap grips on my S&W 1076 with the curved palmswell type. Generally, I like a thinner more rounded grip on an autoloader which is why all but one of my autos are single stacks (SW1911, CZ-52, S&W 1076, and Walther PP, my CZ-75 is the only double stack). A few double stacks like a my CZ-75 or a Walther P99 fit me well but several others like a Glock, Sig, or XD do not. On a revolver, finger grooves and a palmswell fit me the best. Three of my five revolvers wear Houges. The other two (a Colt Cobra and H&R Sportsman) wear factory stocks (the Colt also has a Tyler T-Grip adapter) but they don't fit me quite as well as my Houge-stocked revolvers.
 
For me, the grip angle isn't as much an issue as the shape and width of the grip. A Glock doesn't fit me particularly well because they have fairly wide squarish grips.
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And that's another valid point. Case in point: Sig Saur. I REALLY wanted to like these guns. I believe they're well made, backed by a reputable company, and are attractive guns. But the grips on these are monstrous for my hand. They fill up too much space. I have several friends with larger than average hands and Sigs fit the bill for them. Jealous man, I am...:(
 
I traced the grip frame of a Glock 19 and Colt Gov't Model with curved mainspring housing. The outlines (and therefore, grip angle) are very close to the same. The Colt circumference, however, is slightly smaller and more oval than the more squarish Glock. The Glock has a lower bore axis however.

I like the Glock/Colt arched MSH grip angle which seems the most naturally pointable for me. As others noted above, it is only one part of the equation for what is most comfortable/shootable for any particular person.

My personal least favorite grip angle is the Colt 1903 Pocket Model, points extremely low for me.
 
I am with sholling

I find the 'point test' completely valid, as it mirrors my actual shooting.

Experience teaches us we often 'point-shoot' when forced by circumstance.

My Glock experience (even after one went for a reduction) showed me they point wrong for me, so I no longer own any.
Certain other guns have the same issue; they don't point for me.
I don't own them, either.

Rigorous low-light/dark shooting reinforces my opinion about the need for point-shooting.
 
Glocks have always felt funny in my hand; guess that's why I don't own one ... XD's on the other hand feel great, which makes me IMHO shoot better ... that's why I'm on my second ...

I've had a Taurus 85 for years. When I bought it, I had a hard time making it shoot to point of aim because it was hard to line up the sights with the stock grips. My wife got me a set of reshaped wood grips, and it's one of my favorite shooters now. I think there's definately something to the feel of the grip as it relates to accuracy and comfort.
 
Grip angle aside a well rounded gunman should be able to shoot any gun after learning how it is sighted after a couple of rounds. I can go from SA revolver to Glock to 1911 to 10/22 in 1 hour a shoot them effectively. Why does everyone complain you should welcome new guns not bash them for not being a 1911 or other. That is the great thing about guns there are many types and styles. Would you want to be limited to only 45.acp 1911's, 12ga. pump shot guns and 30.06 bolt action? HELL NO!
 
You are right there are many choices so why would you choose something that did not feel as good when you have so many other choices to pick from. I own and have owned more than just 1911's but I choose them based on how they feel to me not because people say how good they are for them.

Glocks are great guns just not something I want to spend money on when there other great choices.
 
I also believe it is more than just grip angle. ...but combined with grip shape (squarish, oval, rectangular, etc.) and the actual dimensions make for lots of choices.

The best feeling grip in my hand is a Browning HP. I wish I owned one. Next is the Beretta 92/96 series, and I do own a a 96FS. The M1911 series is third best but the Ruger pistols have the worst feeling grip for me. I love Ruger revolver grips but I don't own any Ruger pistols.
 
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