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$10.00 to $20.00 everyday....

IMO, .25 to .50 per round for any common handgun caliber will now be the "new normal" as of 2013. :mad:
.22LR .38spl 9mm(9x19mm), .40S&W, .45acp, 10mm, .357magnum, .44spl, etc will still be available but the per round sale price will not go down to the levels of the 1990s/early 2000s. :(

Non-gun owners or non-shooters may not clearly understand this point either.
They might say; ".50 for a 9mm bullet sounds normal to me" or isn't a 50 round box of practice .38spl $30.00? :mad:
When you think about many US citizens in general spend between $10.00 to $20.00 nearly every workday. They might buy a cup of coffee or a juice with a donut on the way to work, then they may buy lunch or a snack during the workday, then on the return trip home, get a soft drink or fast food item as they travel.

Some new gun owners or shooters(who started after the 2012/2013 "scare") may not even realize that ammunition sale prices are way, way out of whack.
They'll pay the $20.00/30.00/50.00 price for 20/25 rounds of carry ammuntion.
And the major ammunition firms & corporations will continue to make record profits/$$$.
 
Tom, I still disagree. The problem is NOT 100% because folks are buying up everything in sight. There is simply not as much available. Yes, demand is ridiculous. But supply has been sharply curtailed as well. Hence the perfect storm.
 
I went to that GM last week (or maybe it was week before) to check supplies. Just about the only thing they didn't have was .22.
 
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Tom, I still disagree. The problem is NOT 100% because folks are buying up everything in sight. There is simply not as much available. Yes, demand is ridiculous. But supply has been sharply curtailed as well. Hence the perfect storm.
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Why on gods green earth would competing companies who make their money by selling ammo deliberately and unanimously decide to make less of it at the very time that demand is highest?

It doesn't make sense and unless you believe they're all lying and there's a grand conspiracy, production is at record highs.

No sir, it's pure panic. Just because your Gander got none last week or the week before doesn't mean there's less ammo. There's supply and demand in the wholesale supply chain too and when every retailer can sell every box they can get and 10x more, they do the same thing the end-user does... buy every round they can get, which created the shortage in the supply chain that makes us think there's less ammo.
 
But supply has been sharply curtailed as well. Hence the perfect storm.
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Perfect storm for what purpose?

Just don't see your logic.

What I do see in front of me as I type is this weeks adds/sales paper from one of our local, larger gun/outdoor stores advertising .22's as 500rd brick of CCI 40grn. lead bullet, target grade for $34.75 limit two per customer and a 400rd box of Amer. Eagle, 38grn., copper plated hollow point for $29.75 limit one per customer.

I've not been to a gun show this year but know a few people that have. They report bricks of .22's going for $60-$70 and the dealer not batting an eye telling you he won't take a penny less. These are the same dealers buying everything they can get their paws on from your local Wally World and trying to double their profit. And one of the big reasons for the 'limit per box' at most stores.

These dealers are also a big reason for the shortage due to the fact that these same dealers will go into a store with all their relatives, dogs and cats and by the time they all get done buying up a fresh shipment at the local WW, you and I don't stand a chance unless we meet this gouging dealers price of double what he paid for them.

It's not the manufacturer creating the shortage.

Think of it this way...you and I have a company manufacturing pencils. For years we have sold a million pencils a month. We have set our company up as far as employee's, materials and machinery for producing a million pencils a month cause that is what our demand has been.

All of a sudden, within two months our demand doubles to two million/mo.

Our employee's are now working all the OT they can stand, our machines never shut off and our material purchasing dept. is working round the clock to get materials for us to turn out our product. Everyones happy. Employee's are making more $ then they've ever made, We are making more profit then we have since we've been in business...everyones smiling all the way to the bank.

What would you say to me(remember, I'm your partner) if I said to you, we need to create more of a shortage of pencils so lets stop producing 2 million pencils/mo. and go back to 1 million/mo or scale back to even 1 1/2 million/mo.?
Just wouldn't make sense.

Especially if Brian and John, our competitors, were sitting over there with their pencil co. and are willing to keep turning out the 2 million pencils a month compared to the 1 million they used to produce.
 
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I absolutely loathe Remington bulk rimfire. If I wandered in to that store (not happening too often if it says Gander Mountain on the outside) and I saw Remington bulk rimfire 525/$20, I'd probably buy some & forward it to friends who are scrambling for .22LR.

I would never attend that planned bunch of nonsense. No way. I'd consider it (and likely pass) for my preferred brand, but for Remington?! Never.

If there exists worse bulk rimfire than a product from Remington, I've not yet been introduced to it.
 
The manufacturers are making just as much and more than before the panic.The problem lies with the sheep mentality when the inventory is available. Look at the line at Gander Mountain when they advertised the Remmy 22lr, probably most of those customers didn't really need what they bought but just did. Before the panic those 80 boxes probably would have sat on the shelf for several days, even weeks.
Most people I know that shoot .22lr usually have a few bricks on hand and buy a brick when they shoot one up. Those shooters ended up out of luck in recent months, not because because of any fault of theirs but because of the panic/hoarder buyers and the creeps that buy everything up to resell at jacked up prices. I don't begrudge folks that keep lots more on hand, I have several thousand myself. I just happened to buy a brick or two when on sale, last year we could buy a 550 box of Federal on sale for $18.99...how can you turn down a few boxes at that price? I've made it a point to give away 22LR as birthday gifts to the shooters in my life, they appreciate it very much!
 
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I absolutely loathe Remington bulk rimfire. If I wandered in to that store (not happening too often if it says Gander Mountain on the outside) and I saw Remington bulk rimfire 525/$20, I'd probably buy some & forward it to friends who are scrambling for .22LR.

I would never attend that planned bunch of nonsense. No way. I'd consider it (and likely pass) for my preferred brand, but for Remington?! Never.

If there exists worse bulk rimfire than a product from Remington, I've not yet been introduced to it.
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Haha! I totally agree. It is the only brand in which the bullets easily rotate and even wobble in the case. I get horrible accuracy, like 3" groups at 25 yds.

As to the increased demand I know some of it is panic buying, or speculation trading. But I also know a LOT of folks who bought their first .22LR gun in the last three years not knowing how hard it would be to get ammo. They are some of the most desperate to get ANY ammo they can to shoot their new gun.

If I was in their shoes I would pay $80 for 500 rds versus not shooting my new gun for another year. As it is, I was steadily stocking up since 2005 and have plenty to ride this one out.
 
I don't shoot 22LR very often, I've got about 2000 rounds, at my rate of fire that's well over a decades worth.
 
Haha! I totally agree. It is the only brand in which the bullets easily rotate and even wobble in the case. I get horrible accuracy, like 3" groups at 25 yds.
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A large part of my opinion on Remington bulk rimfire came from finding duds & dropped rounds at the range. Always, I'd pick these up and drop 'em in my box. I don't know why I'd do it. I didn't shoot them, I just didn't think they should sit there on the ground, so home with me they'd come, and all ended up in a peanut butter jar. All brands & head stamps.

One day, I got sick of looking at them and started yanking the slugs out with pliers. At this point, you can look inside and see the priming compound wiped on the inside of the clean, new, mirror-shiny interior of the brass cartridge case.

And the Remington stuff was by far the worst. The priming compound should be spread everywhere. On the duds & misfires, it's clearly not spread everywhere, and nowhere close to "even." On some, there appears to be -NO- compound spread in there at all. And Remington was always the worst offender.
 
My rifles and buckmark all get great accuracy from Remington bulk Golden Bullets. That's all I buy or have bought. The last time I bought 22lr was about 8 years ago and I still have a couple bricks left but I'd prefer them over all.
 
My .22 handguns sit in my safe for now. I don't much like shooting .22 anyway. I'd rather shoot my bow than a .22 firearm, so that's what I do.

Some day there will be more .22LR out there than you can shake a stick at. So,I won't be buying any .22 ammo for a long time.
 
Some day there will be more .22LR out there than you can shake a stick at.
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There are only two ways that will happen- if I'm either dead, or paralyzed, because I doubt there will ever be dearth of sticks .......

If there were plenty of unfired .22lr around, my kids would fix that right quick .....
 
I believe there will be one day too. One day the taxes will be so high hardly anyone will be able to buy them.
They may not be able to take our guns and bullets from us, just make it next to impossible to be able to afford them. Better stock up all you can now.
 
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"believe there will be one day too. One day the taxes will be so high hardly anyone will be able to buy them.
They may not be able to take our guns and bullets from us, just make it next to impossible to be able to afford them. Better stock up all you can now."

These kind of unfounded rumors are what keeps everyone in a panic and paying $70 for a $22 brick of Federal 22LR. Better pay 3 times the amount now to avoid that 5% tax later!
 
It will be back, but the price will be like primers a little high once retail found out we will pay more. Remember last year it was .380 and it came back down

Doug
 
Just like gasoline. We had to pay almost $5.00 a gallon at one time and now we're really excited and happy when we find it for $3.10
It won't never go to where it once was.
Back about 4 years ago you could find Remington bulk golden bullets at wallyworld for $9.00 a brick and now you can't even find them but when you do they are like $20.00
Do you really think after they return on shelves they'll really go back to $9.00 ? No chance - better stock up on everything.
 
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