I posted new reply about a girl jogger & tried to keep the spelling & other stuff in better shape . The grandson is punished & cant come over but we talked & I have a better idea how this works . He said he will add spell check & give me a few more lessons . I did really enjoy the story about the downed pilot & got carried away . This is all new to me & even back in the day I was not a good student but I was a soldier & did serve in combat . The computer is fun & you can write & read about lots of stuff going on besides guns , sorry I got off on the wrong foot . PS I did think that S&W 317 was over priced but after I used it & got the feel & it shot to the point of aim thats all you can ask of any revolver or pistol . Its the 10 oz weight that sold me , I didnt think that using a 22 for protection would anger anyone . I have lots of good story's in this old noggin & I hope I can share them with you guys & I also have other guns to talk about ....Jimmy