Good scope for 100-600 yards

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BoogieMan

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I want to do some target shooting out to 600 yds.
Might extend that if they open the 1000 yd range at my club. I am thinking that a variable with a max 20-25x would do it. Target turrets? Other features including the preferd cross hair style. 1" or 30mm tube?
I know leupold is a great scope but what models should I be looking at?
Nightforce may be outside of what I'm willing to pay at this point.
how about Burris, nikon or vortex? What about buying used on ebay?
 
I would go with a 8-32 x 56 scope ( I did ). As for scope. Nightforce is great,but take a close look at Sightron scopes. I have one on my F Class rifle. Was out to 1400 yards this summer with it. Clarity is great,Tracking is second to none. 30mm tube for sure also.
 
Sighttron run more or less than nightforce. I like the vortex for price and keep in mind I am a beginner beyond 100yds. I just don't want to limit myself when going further. Also, at least for now I will be shooting 30-06, 700. I know it's lost popularity in recent. But, I also know it has won thousands of titles over the years.
 
I shoot with a number of guys that run Mueller at hi-power(600yrd). they are well built and a great value. expect to spend around 300$ for a good 60 yard scope. a friend at work just purchased one about two weeks ago for his new 700 and we shot 300 an it did great. I know about 8 guys who have them and they are all satisfied. I will be getting one in a month or so.

http://muelleroptics.com/mu83244td
http://muelleroptics.com/mu852550igr

swfa has a great reputation on this forum, I have never used on firsthand
http://swfa.com/
 
Leupold VX6 4-24, Vortex Viper PST 6-24, or SWFA SS HD 5-20 would be my top 3 choices.

30-34mm tube as it will allow for more adjustment should you shoot to 1000 yards.

Mil reticle with mil turrets. Easy to remember mil holds with reticle or dial elevation/windage in same measurements.

FFP so your reticle is always at the right size, regardless of magnification, which will allow you to have the same mil holds at any magnification.

These are my suggestions based on my research for a scope for my next long range rifle.
 
The Sightron will run about $800.00. Also a skizzums said- Muller- I also have a 8-32-44 Muller on my 308. Scope tracks very well for $240.00. Only thing I do not like is the 44mm obj. Not limiting yourself is why I say go with a 8-32 power scope. Yes you can shoot 1000 yards with a 3-9 power only thing is-Your bullseye has to be 3 feet in diameter to see it. With a 32 power at 1000 yards,If you use splatter targets you can see your bullet hole. My target at 1000 yards is a 3 inch splatter target. Now I dont put them in there all the time,but when I do I can see it. Just trying to help you not have to upgrade later when you go to 600 or 1000 yards. Don't under power yourself. It will just come back to haunt you later.
 
The mueller is interesting. But is in a class anywhere near the sighttron or others. Or is it good for the money? I spent that much on my 3-9.
I expect to have some investment in this. I'm ok at $800, but if I can do the same for $240 it would be crazy to blow the extra $560.
 
Muller clarity is good,not great but good. Sightron is great. My Muller did pass the box test at 100 yards. Like I say the only thing I don't like about it is the 44 mm Obj.

Yes Bart you can-as I stated use a 3-9 for 1000 yards, but also like I said- Your bullseye needs to be much bigger. Aim small hit small. There is a lot of truth in that statement. Smaller bulllseye equals smaller groups.

The Muller is not in the same class as Sightron, but for $240.00 you will be hard pressed to find a better scope that tracks good.
 
if the mueler interests you, and at the price point they sell it at, it should. you should give it a try and return it if it doesn't pass your criteria. you won't know until you try, unless you have a LGS that sells local. they aren't a big name yet, but they are catching on fast. try to go out to the webs and find some other reviews. I have no prob really zooming into the 10 from 600 yards with it, as clear as I have seen a scope, but I have never owned an 800$ piece of glass, so I am no authority,just know they are popular in highpower
 
I would go with the 8-32 x 56 Sightron SIII scope. I have two on my F class rifles. Not knocking Vortex, but I just bought a Vortex Diamondback 4X16 42mm. According to their publications, it has the same glass as the Viper but in a 1" tube. Its a good scope, but I compared it with an unmounted '90's vintage VARX-III and surprisingly the VARX-III was slightly brighter. Would have though the new scope would have been brighter than a twenty year old scope.
 
I think I will look for a used Sightron if the warranty covers the scope to any owner. If not I will likely buy new. I like the Nightforce and Leupold also but they seem to run a little more money. Might be an option down the line, but im new to this. The sightron should work much better than my skill level at this point. Also I havent done anything to the rifle yet. Plan to start with a restock and eventually true the action and maybe even re-barrel. Not to mention working on my loads. Remy 700ADL should be better than me out of the box. Plan to start with some sierra 168 mk.

This is what I think I want-- http://info.sightron.com/Riflescopes/SIII Series/SIIISS832X56LRMOA/

Any pros or cons to this setup?
 
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Boogieman-Right scope, But if I might. The one you have here is 1/4 MOA. You might want to look at the 1/8 MOA scope. This I know from expirence:eek:
 
Only "problem" I see is you have a Mil reticle and MOA turrets.
Not really a problem, but means you will have to learn your MOA adjustments for dialing elevation and learn mil adjustments if you hold for windage and elevation.

Mil - Mil would be ideal so you have one measuring system to memorize.
 
Let's pretend I know nothing about scopes, because I have figured out that I dont.
Your saying that the slashes are mill style and of a different increment than the 1/4 moa adjustment of the turret? Should I be looking at a plane reticle like a fine duplex? I have also been reading the other thread with the new 308 who is also trying to choose a scope. This rifle will likely never see a hunt.
 
The Sightron Long Range 10x50-60 is 1/8 MOA adjustments NS 30MM tube for about $1,050.00. Weaver has some new Target scopes not yet on their web site. Bruno's had them.

Bob
 
Let's pretend I know nothing about scopes, because I have figured out that I dont.
Your saying that the slashes are mill style and of a different increment than the 1/4 moa adjustment of the turret? Should I be looking at a plane reticle like a fine duplex? I have also been reading the other thread with the new 308 who is also trying to choose a scope. This rifle will likely
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Correct.
The turrets adjust in 1/4 MOA for each click. 1 MOA (4 clicks) = roughly 0.3 mils. So each click of the turret = .075 mil.

Not to confuse it even more, but if it's not a First Focal Plane (FFP) reticle (reticle increases or decreases in size based on magnification) then the mil reticle is not accurate except for on 1 magnification setting(usually max magnification or close to it). So at 8x 1 mil in the reticle does not = 1 mil on target. It's a fraction of 1 mil based on what magnification the mils are true at.

This is why I reccomended the Vortex Viper PST 6-24x50. It's mil turrets and mil (mil radians aka MRAD) FFP reticle.
http://swfa.com/Vortex-6-24x50-Viper-PST-30mm-Rifle-Scope-P67735.aspx
 
Which is a fine simple solution. But then you have to dial elevation and windage. Elevation is not a problem. Dialing windage is trickier since it changes constantly.
 
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