It just so happens that the 9/2000 issue of "GUN TESTS" (the closet thing that we have to a 'Consumer Reports' for gun products) arrived last night and they evaluated concealed snubbies. The best gun was the S&W 342PD but it was also the most expensive. After that, came the S&W 442. The 442 ranked above the Taurus 85UL/CH because it could handle all types of ammo while it was recommended to stick with rounds under 130gr for the 85UL/CH. The best gun for the money was a Charter 2000 Undercover and it advised to stay away from the Taurus 85CH (not to be confused with the 85UL/CH). Personally speaking, I only have experience with the 85UL/CH and I am very happy with it. If I wasn't out of town on a business trip right now, the 85UL/CH would be on my hip as I type this. FUD.
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by FUD:
for the 85UL/CH. The best gun for the money was a Charter 2000 Undercover and it advised to stay away from the Taurus 85CH[/quote]
Not that I put a whole lot of stock in Gun Tests, but why did they not like the 85CH?
Devin
[This message has been edited by NovaTerp (edited August 29, 2000).]
for the 85UL/CH. The best gun for the money was a Charter 2000 Undercover and it advised to stay away from the Taurus 85CH[/quote]
Not that I put a whole lot of stock in Gun Tests, but why did they not like the 85CH?
Devin
[This message has been edited by NovaTerp (edited August 29, 2000).]
I would have to say the best choice is a S&W 442/642 due to the light weight, hidden hammer, and +P capability.
The Taurus with a concealed hammer would be next. However, these can't be reliably fired inside a coat pocket like the 442/642 can if need be.
I like Ruger revolvers but would stay away from them since there is not a Barami hip grip available for them.
The Charter arms is nice but I don't think it's rated for +P ammo. I could be wrong on that. Anyway, if one practices with standard ammo, the occasional use of +P to shoot a BG probably won't hurt the gun though.
The best means for carry that I have found is the hip grip accompanied by a Tyler-T grip adapter.
If a jacket is to be worn, then the Ken Null City Slicker holster is fantastic.
Just my $0.02
Good luck
The Taurus with a concealed hammer would be next. However, these can't be reliably fired inside a coat pocket like the 442/642 can if need be.
I like Ruger revolvers but would stay away from them since there is not a Barami hip grip available for them.
The Charter arms is nice but I don't think it's rated for +P ammo. I could be wrong on that. Anyway, if one practices with standard ammo, the occasional use of +P to shoot a BG probably won't hurt the gun though.
The best means for carry that I have found is the hip grip accompanied by a Tyler-T grip adapter.
If a jacket is to be worn, then the Ken Null City Slicker holster is fantastic.
Just my $0.02
Good luck
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by NovaTerp: ... Not that I put a whole lot of stock in Gun Tests, but why did they not like the 85CH?[/quote]I'm not saying that GUN TESTS is the best but I think thatn it is the closest thing that we have in the gun industry that provides honest (everything they review is purchased in a store and no samples are obtained from the factory AND they accept no advertizing money from anybody to influence their decision), published reports. That said, they advised against the 85CH because of "ignition & mechanical problems resulting in the gun having to be retuned to the factory for warranty work" before all of the firing tests could even be completed. FUD.
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by FUD:
That's a reflection on Taurus rather than on that particular model. It could just as easily have been the Ti model with those problems. I don't see why they recommended against a specific model because of quality problems in the Taurus line. It's not a problem with the design, it's a problem with QA. It's unfortunate that Gun Tests cannot make that distinction.
Devin
That's a reflection on Taurus rather than on that particular model. It could just as easily have been the Ti model with those problems. I don't see why they recommended against a specific model because of quality problems in the Taurus line. It's not a problem with the design, it's a problem with QA. It's unfortunate that Gun Tests cannot make that distinction.
Devin
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My wife has a S&W 649 bodyguard in stainless. It is a little heavier than the airweight but more controllable and she likes the small grips.
Too bad I threw all my other S&W in the river...just kidding I kept a 686 snubbie. Loaded with snake shot is a great water moccasin gun for fishing trips. Plus in stainless steel it does well when it rains. It is too big for comfortable pocket or inside the belt carry but the fish don't mind a shoulder holsteer.
Too bad I threw all my other S&W in the river...just kidding I kept a 686 snubbie. Loaded with snake shot is a great water moccasin gun for fishing trips. Plus in stainless steel it does well when it rains. It is too big for comfortable pocket or inside the belt carry but the fish don't mind a shoulder holsteer.