Going to visit New York...CCW?

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My two cents:
Don't get your legal advice from a forum. It may be good advice, but there is no substitute for being educated yourself.

Weight the cost for yourself of getting busted...

Get creative: ball-peen hammer and a screwdriver are perfectly legal and for sale in every city in the country (not very good at long range though).

I travel a lot, so I'm familiar with the anxiety of not having all my tools with me. For everyone else, ask a teenage girl to leave her cell phone home for a few days and watch her squirm...similar theory.

At the end of the day: Rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it.
 
Visiting any secured buildings, you probably won't be allowed in with a folding knife of any kind. Not sure about flashlights. Are visitors to the MOMA/Met screened these days?

If you get into a situation where you need to use any sort of weapon, you've already failed at situational awareness.

Staying alert served me just fine when I lived in hell.

Carrying a ball-peen hammer with no explainable use for it is most likely going to be deemed illegal carry of a weapon if you manage to get searched and it's found. A flashlight should be okay.

Check out this thread where a NYC peace officer talks about arresting people for carrying a kubotan:
http://forums.officer.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-42554.html
That's what you're up against if you carry a weapon in NYC: well-intentioned law enforcement who think it's in your best interest to arrest you for carrying most weapons that can be used in self defense. According to Shield22, assaulting minors for swearing, and charging people for carrying a kubotan, will help reduce violent crime. :rolleyes:

Check for yourself, but a small folder (I'd go with 3.5" or smaller, folder, non-assisted) and a flashlight should be fine. After some quick research, it appears to me that NYC legal pepper spray must have a warning label and first aid instructions mandated by NY law. If you have some other spray not sold in NY, it's possible that it's illegal because it lacks those labels.

An umbrella is not as sturdy but would have better reach than a flashlight.

Some people have been known to develop a leg or foot ailment, requiring them to use a cane, before travelling to regions that forbid concealed carry. A strange phenomenon, but be alert for any unusual pain or difficulty walking... it could happen to you.

IANAL nor a legal expert.
 
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Some people have been known to develop a leg or foot ailment, requiring them to use a cane, before travelling to regions that forbid concealed carry. A strange phenomenon, but be alert for any unusual pain or difficulty walking... it could happen to you.
LoL :D

Are visitors to the MOMA/Met screened these days?


Last time I was at the Met, (2 yrs ago) We were Wanded, not a big deal.

BTW: Constantine, the cane didn't have a second look from the guards.
 
My vote is don't go to NYC, but I had to violate that myself a couple of weeks ago because of a family emergency. But I was in and out the same day and I stayed strictly on main streets in lower-central Manhattan.

Get real, he has what is called a wife.

Get creative: ball-peen hammer and a screwdriver are perfectly legal and for sale in every city in the country (not very good at long range though).

Unless your the construction worker of the Village People, no.
Ha, ha, ha, macho man
 
8shot357 said:
Get real, he has what is called a wife.
Where was there any lack of reality in my post?

I also have a wife, and my wife loves to go into New York City. She also knows and respects that I detest NYC, so unless it is necessary for me to be there for some kind of business, when she feels an urge to visit the Big Apple she goes with one of her female friends who also likes visiting NYC.
 
So you let your unarmed wife travel with another unarmed wife into NYC and you are not concerned? That would seem to answer the issue then
 
Man, I'm surprised some of you guys even leave your houses your so afraid of the world. My parents, my grandparents, uncles, aunts, cousins, friends, friends of friends... none of us carry and we're all still here.

IF I could carry would I? Damn straight. But I'm not going to be afraid to go outside if I can't either.
 
bring the gun(s). you'll never use them unless absolutely necessary anyways
And that's why we don't rely on the internet for serious advice.

I was last in NYC in 2008. As others have said, the city has been cleaned up. I rode the subway from Manhattan to Jamaica at odd hours. I did not feel I was in any danger at any time.

Why? Because it's been turned into Airstrip One. There are cameras everywhere. I don't remember not being within shouting distance of a police officer at any point when I was there.

Safer? Yes, for people who obey the law. However, NYC has a well-known law that makes carrying a concealed weapon a crime, paired with a culture that's very wary of anything that might be a concealed weapon. This post 9/11 world and all that.

In NYC, you're often going to be at close quarters. You'll be jostling other people in crowds. Somebody bumps into you and feels something that might be a chunk of metal, and the police will be notified. You'll be in and out of buildings with metal detectors at the entrances. Stop and walk away suspiciously, and the police will be notified.

I daresay it's probably more risky to carry a concealed weapon there than not.
 
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She also knows and respects that I detest NYC, so unless it is necessary for me to be there for some kind of business, when she feels an urge to visit the Big Apple she goes with one of her female friends who also likes visiting NYC.

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So you let your unarmed wife travel with another unarmed wife into NYC and you are not concerned? That would seem to answer the issue then

Thank you, you were being kind. I would have ripped him a ....
 
oneounceload said:
So you let your unarmed wife travel with another unarmed wife into NYC and you are not concerned? That would seem to answer the issue then
My wife is a free adult who grew up in a city far more dangerous than NYC. My loathing for NYC stems from the filth, the noise, the pollution and the army of hangers-on who all have their hands out for your money, NOT because I think NYC is any more dangerous than Omaha, Nebraska, or Coeurs d'Alene, Idaho. NYC is a lot LESS dangerous than Tucson, Arizona, for example.

My wife is comfortable going into NYC. What am I supposed to do ... forbid her from going?

The next snide comment about MY relationship with MY wife will be regarded as a personal attack and will be reported to the moderators for appropriate action.
 
Lights out. Don't care about your opinion on NYC vs. the paradise you might live in or posters spousal relationships.

I knew we would go down this path. Told you so.

Bye, Bye.
 
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