Going to a gun range in another state

Sales - no go (was not going to buy anyway)
Rents - appears to be legal, but of course it all depends on the range

This is what I'm getting from all the replies. Am i correct?

Very helpful and I appreciate all the responses.
 
There appear to be no Federal Laws prohibiting it.

State Laws doing so appear to be unknown to non-existent.

You get the legal advice you pay for, so you're probably safe enough I wouldn't hire an actual attorney, but please don't ask us for a refund either :p
 
Jen-from-IL said:
Sales - no go (was not going to buy anyway)
Rents - appears to be legal, but of course it all depends on the range
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Under federal law, yes. That may or not be the case under state law. Now, I'm not licensed in either TN or NC, but my hunch is this: (1) TN ought not to be a problem. It's pretty gun friendly. (2) I don't have the foggiest clue about NC.

ETA: These might be handy on NC law:
http://www.ncdoj.com/getdoc/32344299-a2a7-4ae5-99fd-9018262f64ac/2007-NC-Firearms-gun-Laws.aspx

http://www.nraila.org/gun-laws/state-laws/north-carolina.aspx (be cautious here, as I've found errors before, though)

TN: http://www.nraila.org/gun-laws/state-laws/tennessee.aspx (be cautious here, as I've found errors before, though)
 
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I'm on North Carolina now and I whet to a range today. The only hassle I had was having to pay for everything. :)

Seriously though, no hassles at all. Friendly staff, great rental options (for 9mm is was Glocks, M&Ps and Springfield XD-9s (might have been a couple others but they elude me right now)). The staff was amazing in helping me and not caring that I was from a non gun friendly state. Quite the opposite. They actually WANT you to shoot and to exercise your 2A rights. I shot the XD-9 and I did like it much better than the Glock I shot last month. Just felt better and having an ambi mag release helped . I learned to use the slide lock/release with my left index finger fairly well by the end of my time. Also got to hold an FNX-9, but not shoot it. Still, its my future gun. Loved how it felt. Soon hopefully.

So, when you go to a 2A friendly state, so much is opened up. Nobody cared I was from Illinois. All that mattered was that I wanted to shoot. I got myself a pink UpLula loader which is amazing. Funny, the staff member helping me said he only had one in pink. I just said fine, I guess I'll take it. Hehehe

Sooooo, to summarize, AWESOME!!!!!!!

Perhaps I should move here....... ;)
 
A popular indoor range near my home had two experiences within a year or so where someone came in, rented a gun, and killed themselves. They no longer rent guns to someone who comes in alone, unless you are already a member of their club. If you bring in your own gun - no problem - they figure if you already have a gun you could kill yourself anywhere.
 
Jen
Yes, they want you to shoot and enjoy your 2A rights at all the ranges, and stores.
It's their business.
Most of the ranges here use 2 people to rent, but we did visit one in Orange County last week that, even tho' they did have one doa on the floor, still goes with one can rent.
You can rent full autos, Uzi, Thompson etc., in Las Vegas. Reno too.
And probably other states as well.
dc
 
Nothing was mentioned about me being alone. I did talk to various members of the staff (3 total) and I am quite sane.:). Seriously though, I understand the issues resulting from someone unstable renting a gun to take their own life. It's very unfortunate.
 
I have to say I'm really skeptical about this "renting a gun for suicide" scenario. It sounds more to me like a dreamed up scenario for politicians to "fix" with more laws than something that actually happens, especially in the freqencies mentioned here. I'm trying to imagine a scenario in which I wish to off myself, and the best idea I can come up with is to go to a public range and rent a gun. Just doesn't seem logical, even for the irrational. Can anybody cite documentation of cases where this has actually happened, especially more than once at the same location?
 
TimSr said:
Can anybody cite documentation of cases where this has actually happened, especially more than once at the same location?
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I hate to say it, but yes. Just a cursory web search brought up:
http://www.freep.com/article/201302...view-suicides-at-Target-Sports-shooting-range
http://www.mercurynews.com/milpitas/ci_23911887/hayward-man-suspected-suicide-at-milpitas-gun-range
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ndice-Kristin-Hermeler-shot-US-gun-range.html
http://www.examiner.com/article/man-commits-suicide-at-h-h-gun-range-oklahoma-city

ETA: These are just the first few that came up in my results.
ETA #2: No, I don't know of any range on which it has happened twice.
 
TimSr,

Without cross-checking the links provided by Spats, this has happened to my knowledge in:

the Atlanta area, at GA Firing Line; I think this was two years ago;

the Orlando area, at two different locations of Shoot Straight; a few years ago;

the Seattle area, can't remember the name of the shop and range, in Redmond or Kirkland (near the city line); 2000 timeframe.
 
TimSr said:
I have to say I'm really skeptical about this "renting a gun for suicide" scenario. It sounds more to me like a dreamed up scenario for politicians to "fix" with more laws than something that actually happens, especially in the freqencies mentioned here. I'm trying to imagine a scenario in which I wish to off myself, and the best idea I can come up with is to go to a public range and rent a gun. Just doesn't seem logical, even for the irrational. Can anybody cite documentation of cases where this has actually happened, especially more than once at the same location?
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I'm not sure why so many people are so skeptical about this. It happens. It's happened at least twice over the years at the range I work at. And we've stopped a few more. And now that we have the rule, it doesn't happen anymore. But we still give all of our employees periodic classes on suicide prevention, just in case.

A coworker told me two suicide stories from another range he worked at. And, even though all the ranges in the area have instituted the rule, yet another range in the area had a suicide recently: The guy didn't have a gun or a buddy, so he signed up weeks ahead of time for a class (the rule didn't apply for classes). And then he killed himself in the middle of the class.
 
the Seattle area, can't remember the name of the shop and range, in Redmond or Kirkland (near the city line); 2000 timeframe.
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There are two ranges that I can think of that could have been. Given your time frame, I believe the store you're talking about is Wade's Eastside Guns and the Bellevue Indoor Range.

We just recently had someone at the other range, West Coast Armory, have the guy sign up for a gun class and then shoot himself in the head as soon as they handed him his rental and ammunition.

I suspect that not too much longer we'll also see the "buddy rule" from swimming applied to safety classes as well.

ETA: In fact, the Bellevue Indoor Range half of Wade's Eastside guns had Two shootings in 5 days. that led to their adoption of the buddy rule.
ETA #2 The Bellevue Indoor range has had a number of incidents... according to the Seattle Paper article on that same pair of suicides, including the "urban legend" of a woman firing off a round behind her into her boyfriend with a giant revolver.
 
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I was at a range two weeks ago. The range was there 2 years. The manager was telling us about their one. They commented that was when they removed the carpeting. And now just have bare floor.
They also commented that there were other people there. It was in a small section, only 5 lanes. Apparently he waited til another shooter left, but a family, dad and wife, no idea how many kids, one or two, didn't leave soon enough.
So they got to be witnesses.
Would you be willing to tell them you're skeptical?
dc
 
JimDandy said:
ETA: In fact, the Bellevue Indoor Range half of Wade's Eastside guns had Two shootings in 5 days. that led to their adoption of the buddy rule.
ETA #2 The Bellevue Indoor range has had a number of incidents... according to the Seattle Paper article on that same pair of suicides, including the "urban legend" of a woman firing off a round behind her into her boyfriend with a giant revolver.
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That's horrible, the poor employees and customers who had to see that!
 
Bear in mind there is a worldwide network of suicide advocates (I'm not kidding) who share information about techniques/methods for committing suicide. (One very disturbing term they like to use is "voluntary euthanasia"). Nominally, these advocates are supporting those in great pain or emotional turmoil resulting from a terminal disease; the reality is, however, there is no admission test and anyone can join and participate in their network/discussions.

I'm sure renting a gun at the range and committing suicide on the range did not spring up out of the ether - I'd be shocked if this was not a technique these suicide advocates have not discussed and published among themselves.

That it makes our existence as firearms enthusiasts more complicated and inconvenient is no doubt of little concern to them.

http://www.exitinternational.net/
http://www.patientsrightscouncil.org/site/assisted-suicide-support/
 
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