Glocks go KABOOM?

I don't own a Glock, would like to. If any of you are scared of yours, will happily trade you my 1911 for one in .40 or .45. No wussy 9mm's please! Use only factory loads, or jacketed reloads from a reputable manufacturer, i.e., Precision Cartridge. They carry a huge liability policies, and although I do not condone frivilous lawsuits, Precision Cartridge guarantees their STANDARD amunition against any and all failures. I have fired cases and cases of this ammo from 1911's, Glock's, Sig's, and numerous other guns. NO PROBLEMS.

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I thought I'd seen it all, until a 22WMR spun a bunny 2 1/4 times in the air!
 
Last gun I saw go KB was a 38 special revolver loaded with 2.5 gns Bullseye under a 148 gn wadcutter.

Gun was brand new out of the box, fired about 8 rounds before the detonation, and the cylinder ended up with 3 chambers blown out.

Gun problem or relaoded ammo problem?
 
So what I gather here is that like anything else, You shoot it,no reloads factory only,clean it after each use,and just take care of it and it will give you many years of good service ;) Unless there is a slight chance of a fluke mishap. I just may buy me one :D

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We preserve our freedoms by using four boxes: soap,ballot,jury, and cartridge.
Anonymous
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Kiwiman:
Last gun I saw go KB was a 38 special revolver loaded with 2.5 gns Bullseye under a 148 gn wadcutter.[/quote]

Ammo problem. As in, it was double or triple charged, or the previous load was a squib that left the bullet in the barrel, or another reloading error. I have shot alot of that exact load and you could probably fire it in one of those Japanese pot-metal guns without blowing up the gun (just kidding).

Glocks do kB at a greater rate than other quality pistols, but only in .40 (and now, it seems, maybe in .357 SIG too). The chamber is relatively unsupported, and this can be demonstrated objectively. But there are also a lot of people reloading who frankly shouldn't be (go ahead and flame me, but I really believe this is the truth), and this contributes to kBs in firearms of all sizes and makes. Darwin's dead hand at work?
 
Even after a Kaboom, a Glock is still a good survival tool. Use knife to get plastic shavings for fire starter. Slice it thinly for Glockworst sandwiches. :)

Sam
 
Does anyone have any actual, legitimate evidence of a Glock kB! that was *NOT* caused by idiot botched handloads? I'm not trying to be any more of a wiseguy than usual, I'm just curious. The only exception I know of was Federal's initial production run of 155gr Hydra-Shoks that had some defect with the brass.

And please, no answers like "there was nothing wrong with me putting a 200gr soft cast bullet on top of 50gr of 50%/50% Nitromethane/OCTOL mix!" :)

I'm no Glock or .40S&W fanatic (my favorite gun is a Kimber and my favorite round is .45ACP), but I think alot of this is stupid people being punished by the god of handloading, and Glock and .40S&W come up so much because they are so freakin' common. I think it's worthwhile to note that the FBI torture-tested several .40S&W Glock 23s to the tune of 20,000 rounds EACH (120,000 total rounds) with no malfunctions of any kind. Hmmmm....sounds like a defective, malfunction-prone gun and cartridge design! :)

C.B.
 
Chuck Taylor has a G17 with over 175,000 through it now under ALL kinds of conditions with ALL types of loads and in extreme temperatures. Granted, it's not a .40 but it's a Glock. Doesn't seem to be very defective by nature of design.

The only GKB I remember seeing that wasn't with reloads was concerning Rosenghal (sp?)on this forum and his .357SIG G32. However, he did note that bullet setback was evident in some of the unfired ammo from the batch he was using. Still ammo related.

Get a Glock and be happy. :)

Now, let us turn in our hymnals/owners manual to page 25 and sing "Dismantling and reassembling" as Dr. Glock leads. Laaaaaaalaaa lalaaaaaaaaaa... :D


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R6
 
A question for smoney, JNewell, CastleBravo, and anyone else who out of hand attributes Glock KB's to reloading error.

What kind of after the fact analysis have you done, or know of being done, that would lead you to conclude that reloading error is the cause?

The only analysis that I have seen appears to be the following:

Glock blows up.
Reloads were used.
Therefore,
Reloader error.

That's a pretty weak syllogism.

After a KB occurs, you have a (possibly) broken pistol, and a case that has been blown open. Please, anyone, tell me how you know that reloader error was the problem.
 
Lots of misinformation and speculation on this post.

Coronach is on the right path as is Rob underneath his post.

First, the perceived high kaBoom rate is due to the dominancy of US Glock sales to civilians, law enforcement, and military branches. The sheer volume will bear out problems.

BUT . . . Glocks just as Sigs and HKs are designed to handle +P ammo based upon NATO specs whcih are 100-200 fps faster that SAAMI specs.

What you see is fools trying to see how hot gets before you lose a frame, barrel, and maybe a hand. Double charging or exceeding powder recommendations.

Or you so poor quality control on Russian ammo makers like Wolf ammo. Even some of their 9mm has produced some kabooms.

But I've seen Colts, Kahrs, Sigs, and Beretta's go kaboom or the resulting damage.

Glock's sales of the models chambered in SW 40 also are problematic. It is too risky a load for me to try to reload unless by single stage. But you have reloaders for IPSC, IDPA, and GSSF that are pumping out 500 rounds of 40 on a Dillon and they make mistakes. They admit it. The round is dangerous and care must be taken to reload it.

If you combine those factors, that explains why you see kabooms. But for one Glock kaboom, there are thousands of Glocks that make it to the 50K, 100K, and 200K marke without a glitch. How many other makers can boast that stat?

People do the darndest things with their guns.

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The Seattle SharpShooter
 
I blew up my original G21; however, the KaBoom had nothing to do with Glock's design. Considering the magnatude of the KaBoom, I'm sure glad that it happened on a Glock. My trigger finger felt like I'd hit it with a hammer, but it really wasn't even bruised. No parts flew off, and I wasn't even scratched. The chamber was split on the ejection side; the barrel was split right through the locking lugs to the muzzle, with another split parallel to the one that split the locking lugs.

I was using an aftermarket barrel, shooting my own .400 Cor-Bon reloads. I was using a bullet that was too heavy and powder that was too fast. Additionally, I fired a round that had been setback by a feedramp jam. (This was before I discovered that .400 Cor-Bon won't feed out of double-stack mags)

Glock really treated me right. They sold me a new G21 for $250, plus taxes; they returned my original Glock .45 barrel; they returned the blown-up barrel; they returned my aftermarket connnector from the original Glock, and they installed a new set of Trijicon sights, for free.

Wonder how many other companies would have been so generous????

[This message has been edited by WalterGAII (edited May 22, 2000).]
 
If you think only Glock's KB, go over to HKForum and read thru the archives. There are a good number of HK USP KB's also. Bottom line, it almost always comes back to the ammo used.
 
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